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[*] posted on 11-4-2010 at 07:47 PM


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Interesting track. Well written. Worthy of discussion. No jokes in it though. Average beat, too. Snotty little white children are the naturally the shittest at talking about racial issues, so I'm not angry with you. You just keep rocking that FUBU and fighting the power, lad. I'm proud of you, in a weird kind of way.

I'm super glad we could have this little talk.


it doesn't have to have "jokes" to be "funny"

So you're laughing at him you're saying? When he's being completely earnest and trying to put you and your mutant people in their place once and for all? Fair enough. You should keep listening to hip hop and join one nation.

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you're one of those cunts who wouldn't know when to laugh if you're watching a sit-com and there was no laugh track :bluebjerk:

You're one of those cunts who aren't very good at insulting people by demeaning them through impromptu speculation, on account of having no imagination.:baby:

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i bet you hate curb your enthusiasm too

Curb your enthusiasm has quite a lot of jokes, you know.


it's funny because it's true

i have a lot of "imagination" actually :jah:


:jah: = pretend imagination.
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[*] posted on 11-4-2010 at 07:48 PM


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race is such a trivial issue today compared to the bigger injustices which frequently arise. all serious segregation and inequality is derived from ill distribution of the dollar.


True. But being able to work that out doesn't help defeat the pervasiveness and toxicity of the triviality.
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[*] posted on 11-4-2010 at 08:26 PM


shoosh newb.

[Edited on 26-4-2010 by UncleNevs]
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[*] posted on 11-4-2010 at 10:34 PM


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race is such a trivial issue today compared to the bigger injustices which frequently arise. all serious segregation and inequality is derived from ill distribution of the dollar.


True. But being able to work that out doesn't help defeat the pervasiveness and toxicity of the triviality.
yeah true racism is some ignorantly morbid shit



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[*] posted on 11-4-2010 at 10:43 PM


Mess is blasting this thread.

PS It's always nice when homophobia is thrown into the mix with racial agendas, rounds it out.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2010 at 03:33 PM


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On the real, I never really cared for 'Nature Of The Threat' though. Not from a lyrical point of view, but the beat never moved me.


pretty much the same as the album, only production vibe stopped that lyrical gem from getting 5 mics back when.
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[*] posted on 12-4-2010 at 04:21 PM


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On the real, I never really cared for 'Nature Of The Threat' though. Not from a lyrical point of view, but the beat never moved me.


pretty much the same as the album, only production vibe stopped that lyrical gem from getting 5 mics back when.


Agreed.




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[*] posted on 9-7-2010 at 01:49 PM


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Now, I'm nowhere near informed enough to comment on most of this but at least I'm pretty sure humans evolved at least 60 thousand years ago, or else we'd have had not the requisite time to evolve into all our variant splendours.
Also I found this line pretty amusing:
"Blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin
Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man, Africans
So the mutants traveled North of the equator
Called Europeans later, the first race haters" :ticking:

From this we clearly see Ras Kass is at least a little bit full of shit, but I was wonderng if any you fine people would be in a position to help me quantify exactly how full he is...

Little help?


It is interesting that the only use of the word ‘apparently’ in the entire song is in reference the Africans shunning the white people, then two lines down he calls the Europeans the first race haters as you’ve pointed out. Everything else he claims did happen (not to say that it didn’t but who really knows?).

Very interesting shit though. Too bad this thread didn’t really provoke the discussion you were after.
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[*] posted on 9-7-2010 at 02:00 PM


http://www.ozhiphop.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=6376&page=1...
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[*] posted on 10-7-2010 at 03:17 AM


[Edited on 3-8-2010 by Skematics]



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[*] posted on 10-7-2010 at 04:09 AM


So after listening to the song and reading along with the lyrics and then reading through this thread, I must say; this is quite possibly the most enthralling shit I've read recently.

Regarding the catching feelings business, I can't say I did, but instead I now have an increased thirst for knowledge to know if it is the truth, or what really happened.

But I'm lazy as fuck so that probably wont occur.

Cheers mess.




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[*] posted on 10-7-2010 at 08:17 AM


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Looked like a much better thread before it stopped.

But what I was really going for with this thread was getting everyone else here to tell me which bits are good and factually valid points and which are self serving pap.
Ras Kass is a very good rapper and obviously earnest about his beliefs, but that doesn't mean he's not also a bit of a dick. Or that he is. Needs verification.
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[*] posted on 10-7-2010 at 02:50 PM


break out the hatorade
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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 01:45 PM


Anyone looked further into this? Still interested to know what is fact and what is fiction.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 03:51 PM


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put it into context with american black muslim history, and you will know this is steady learning for most black hip hop folks in the states.

5%, etc.

[Edited on 8-4-2010 by Mackula]


Yup.

This topic has been flogged to death. White folks often tend to catch feelings of this specific track.


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[*] posted on 2-2-2012 at 03:55 PM


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Looked like a much better thread before it stopped.

But what I was really going for with this thread was getting everyone else here to tell me which bits are good and factually valid points and which are self serving pap.
Ras Kass is a very good rapper and obviously earnest about his beliefs, but that doesn't mean he's not also a bit of a dick. Or that he is. Needs verification.


lads,
for the last time. this is standard black history viewpoint (US angle), as opposed to the more common white history viewpoint (US angle), and the reality is - the truth is somewhere in between, if you mix it with dinosaurs and leave out Joseph Smith.




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