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| Quote: | Originally posted by Discourse
| Quote: | Originally posted by Audiophile
| Quote: | Originally posted by Discourse
Maybe a crate of records? |
No doubt, but this is 2011, basically all the dopest breaks have been digitally recorded and upped to the internet. So it's kinda pointless buying
records for that particular break you want that's already been uploaded. |
There are alotta records out there...
if you want all your drums to sound the same as everyone else's, thats fine with me... however there are plenty of breaks outside of "300 Greatest
breaks" or whatever its called, and if everyone keeps using the same premo or alchemist kit everyones drums come from the same place...
The Maschine drums are gonna be a prime example of this, whilst it is an amazing tool, it will encourage people to become lazy due to having a large
library of drums very easily accessible...
For me the beat making process has always begun at the Record store, not at the mp or on the computer or even worse at a blog... i like to know the
signal chain my samples go through before it reaches my mpc...
Id rather not sample a drum that has been put on a record then sampled through some shitty audio interface, run through an eq, compressed then
released on a breaks compilation that was then bought and ripped to itunes made as an mp3 then downloaded?
I know thats a fair rant... but hey you all can do whatever you want... |
downloading Kits? thats an exuse for bieng a lazy producer by my perceptions anyway, the records are out there you just have to spend more then half
an hour digging for them.. weeks, months years of digging, and if you dissagree then you prolly havent been digging at all.. MP3'? Wav CD's you must
be kidding. where has the creativity gone? And the Maschine drums my friend showed me recently i must agree with Geks/Discourse they sound shit , so
is the samples/instruments. The worst thing is kids are no longer getting schoold in this art of digging, therefore it shows in the sound thats taking
shape lately.. My 2 cents anyways..
[Edited on 15-6-2011 by allseeing1]
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@Audiophile
I make beats on a broken $250 keyboard with 11 seconds mono sample time. Trust me its not what expensive
gear you have but the skills/music knowledge you bring to that sampler/program.
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Old thread, I know.
I just wanted to say that I agree entirely with Discourse when he said that it all begins with digging. Aside from being the cornerstone of
production it's also one of the most fun parts. You meet all kinds of crazy and cool record shop owners, you establish a relationship and next thing
you know when you drop in they'll be like "Hey bro, I had this wax come in and I set it aside for you coz I knew you'd want to grab it".
Plus, dusty records smell cool.
And yeah, there are some classic breaks which are infinitely usable (It's a New Day by the Skull Snaps, anyone?) and easy to find in good quality
online but it's very rare for me to go digging and not come back with one or two breaks that I didn't even know existed. Personally, I chop the shit
out of my breaks and layer them to death so even if you don't pick up many breaks you'll still pick up records with drum fills and one shot hits and
so on - and they're just as important to have.
I think the lack of digging isn't a result of laziness (mind you, I like it that people don't dig coz it means there's more for me). It's a result of
lack of cash - I think most people start out producing in their teens when they don't have a decent job - and I think it's also a lack of
knowledge/skills.
So here's my advice - set aside $20 a week (or whatever you can afford) then go out on Saturday and cruise your local record shops. If you don't know
what the fuck you're looking for then start out by grabbing any cheap funk/soul/blues record produced between 1968 and 1975. Before the diggers jump
on my case, I KNOW this is not what we all end up digging and you'll only pick up records that nearly every other producer in the world has, but the
point is that you'll pick up records with usable samples on them (rather than come back with a bunch of kinda useless records which will leave you
discouraged). If you find a record you really like, read the sleeve notes - who produced it? who wrote the tunes? who played on it? what was the
record label? etc. Then, next time you're digging see if you can find any releases from those same people.
Next thing you know you'll have a database of dope shit in your brain and digging will become an addiction.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by FG
Old thread, I know.
You meet all kinds of crazy and cool record shop owners, you establish a relationship and next thing you know when you drop in they'll be like "Hey
bro, I had this wax come in and I set it aside for you coz I knew you'd want to grab it".
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man, this is the exact relationship me and my record shop owner have now. he shows me new bands too that i wouldnt normally know.
and wax does smell cool.
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