Im not offended, I agree with your last post. I wasnt glorifying crime though.
I was trying to explain to people who live in enviroments nothing like this & have never heard a gun shot in there life that this shit happens, alot
in some suburbs of Australia & people with this gangsters are only in America & if your an Aussie your just pretending bullshit is too old.
Crime & criminal activities are happening all over the world wether we like it or not (I hate it). Some people on here seam to think because all they
hear in there neighbourhood is chirping birds that its the same all over Australia. Think yourself lucky guys you have it to easy.
Originally posted by Boo-Boo.
Is this MADFX cunt for real?
He has to be a joke-poster, yeah?
' I come from a place where mates shoot each other over disagreements '
Righto ' Good on ya! Write a book about it Dickhead!
ffs....
Your clearly the only troll here.
Dont put words into my mouth.
Ive got no reason to lie.
Your attitude is pretty bad.
Its like your living in the shadows
of the people you are whinging about.
Dont put words into my mouth.
Another idiot that believes these events dont actually take place.
Whatever makes you feel safe Boo boo.
Originally posted by MADFX
Im not offended, I agree with your last post. I wasnt glorifying crime though.
I was trying to explain to people who live in enviroments nothing like this & have never heard a gun shot in there life that this shit happens, alot
in some suburbs of Australia & people with this gangsters are only in America & if your an Aussie your just pretending bullshit is too old.
Crime & criminal activities are happening all over the world wether we like it or not (I hate it). Some people on here seam to think because all they
hear in there neighbourhood is chirping birds that its the same all over Australia. Think yourself lucky guys you have it to easy.
In all honesty id rather people thought it was just chirping birds than the pissing competition of 'how many tough cunts do you know'. crime is human
frailty at its most pathetic. Whether its done by a corrupt government or a shoplifting kid. Its what you do when you've given up everything else or
your too stupid, greedy or arrogant to try and be legit about things. Im out. Peace and love n shit.
Your clearly the only troll here.
Ive got no reason to lie.
Your attitude is pretty bad.
Its like your living in the shadows
of the people you are whinging about.
Dont put words into my mouth.
Another idiot that believes these events dont actually take place.
[Edited on 7-5-2012 by MADFX]
1. You're *
2. That is exactly what you said, almost word for word.
3. 'Its like I am living in the shadows of the people I am whining about' = Metaphor fail. In order for this statement to be true I would need to be
actively involved in the Sydney Aussie-Gangster rap scene, and would also need to encourage its existence for my own benefit.
4. I never said these events don't actually take place, I just think speaking about them in any circumstance is retarded. Speaking about them on the
internet is fucking retarded and glorifying it in rap music is an uneducated backward step, slowly dumbing the sociology of (and what is expected
from) Australian hip-hop.
I don't condone or celebrate violence and the criminal lifestyle, however, crime is a systemic and economic problem.
if you literally have been abused your whole life, who is anyone to judge the decisions you make, be it to pursue crime or to be violent, though it
may be wrong, it comes from abandonment or misguidance...
these things aren't self inflicted.
i know some common arguments against that are 'oh mate anyone can get their shit together and get a degree and be a successful businessman' or some
condescending naive shit like that, but there is a threshold you can take before you reject a regular life. I think forcing someone to adopt an
external morality without ever having experienced it acted upon towards them is a bit unreasonable. walk a mile in someone else's shoes. furthermore,
the ability to overcome such adversity is also partly a natural thing, not everyone's gifted with it.
Allz im saying is, if you only know violence and abuse drugs etc and it helps to speak on it in a therapeutic way, at least the time and energy spent
on creating those pieces of work is time away from agony and wrong doing.
so rather than hate artists who have that raw street shit, address the streets and their conditions. such art is a reflection of those parts of the
world you may not fully understand.
Wtf's going on here? All these criminal types getting around. Anybody would think Australia was once a nation of convicts, and that some of the most
admired people in Australian history are Ned Kelly, Squizzy Taylor, Chopper Reid & Branden Abbott.
I'm a big fan of that grimy shit, not so much kerser, but I just wanna say that NTER song/clip was really shit......and that hustle hard intro 'I
hustle hard with my bars and my bars hard" shit is laughable too...
Originally posted by 2Easy
I'm a big fan of that grimy shit, not so much kerser, but I just wanna say that NTER song/clip was really shit......and that hustle hard intro 'I
hustle hard with my bars and my bars hard" shit is laughable too...
Originally posted by arkovzay
I thought that NTER track was pretty cool, I watched the whole thing and want to watch it again, and will probably watch it a few more times over the
next few weeks.
It's interesting and engaging. Given that I probably only make it 30 seconds of the way through about 90% of new Australian hip-hop, this song offers
things that others don't.
2. That is exactly what you said, almost word for word.
3. 'Its like I am living in the shadows of the people I am whining about' = Metaphor fail. In order for this statement to be true I would need to be
actively involved in the Sydney Aussie-Gangster rap scene, and would also need to encourage its existence for my own benefit.
4. I never said these events don't actually take place, I just think speaking about them in any circumstance is retarded. Speaking about them on the
internet is fucking retarded and glorifying it in rap music is an uneducated backward step, slowly dumbing the sociology of (and what is expected
from) Australian hip-hop.
edit: no-face is on point.
[Edited on 7-5-2012 by Boo-Boo.]
You must be well educated, I can tell by your use of the word retarded.
Is this Boo-boo serious. Write a book about it DICKHEAD!
When you attack my quotes by editing them they are
rendered useless to you.
I said dont fucking put words into my mouth. This is what was said.
Quote:
Originally posted by MADFX
Only people who were there know what truly happened. Therefore no one can comment on wether it was them targeted or not.
Where I am from this can quite easily happen, rough up the wrong guy & he comes back shooting, we have even had cases where mates of mine have come
back to shoot at their own mates over disagreements in the street I live in.
Not saying the bullets were aimed at them for sure, just saying its possible.
&
Quote:
Originally posted by MADFX
Your clearly the only troll here.
Dont put words into my mouth.
Ive got no reason to lie.
Your attitude is pretty bad.
Its like your living in the shadows
of the people you are whinging about.
Dont put words into my mouth.
Another idiot that believes these events dont actually take place.
Whatever makes you feel safe Boo boo.
[Edited on 7-5-2012 by MADFX]
You are clearly someone who is afraid to vent his or her
oppinion so you create an alias for this. Do you enjoy arguing
about this on an internet forum you must feel like your
something special right? Wrong?
You are trying to win an argument on something that, lets
face it, you have no knowledge of. You do not live in an
enviroment like this, you dont understand the culture here
& therefore you dont have any relative points to bring to
the table in this conversation.
Just listen to wrighty he is the one who is on point. A person
who has moved here after living in another state & witnessed this first hand.
Quote:
Originally posted by wrighty
Wouldn't surprise me at all if it were true.
I used to think all the West Sydney gutter rappers were gammon cunts and drifters, to be honest. It wasn't until moving to Syd that I realised that
the life they're portraying is not necessarily a gimmick or a manufactured image.
Some of the conversations I hear on the train. Fuck me. Seems like every cunt and his dog has done time and is caught up in that crime lifestyle. The
way people talk about "yeah he did 5 years" and "yeahshe did 8 years" in such a frank and matter of fact way... it's like a whole 'nother world out
there.
I think a lot of people from outside of Sydney find the whole thing a bit hard to swallow... oblivious to a world that is out of sight and out of
mind.
These are the dudes Kerser is on tour with at the moment:
Originally posted by whileuweresleeping
Wtf's going on here? All these criminal types getting around. Anybody would think Australia was once a nation of convicts, and that some of the most
admired people in Australian history are Ned Kelly, Squizzy Taylor, Chopper Reid & Branden Abbott.
That line of thinking about ned kelly n all is a bit like saying 'lots of people like justin beiber so he must be good'.why are they admired? Because
they went against authority? What is admirable about that? Personally I think that yes standing up to authority can be admirable sometimes when
authority is being shit but people here tend to think like ' cunts tried to stop me doin rorts to pay for shards, what would uncle chop chop do? I'm a
fuckin revolutionary'
And australia was only a nation of convicts for a pin drop in its 70000 year history of human habitation. Much of the rest of the time it was home to
one of the oldest civilisations on earth and now its home to migrants from everywhere who have the slowly diminishing chance to build good lives for
themselves that they may not get at home, living together with those who were here before. There's been a ton of problems no doubt but there always
was anyway. I wish people would admire doctors and teachers rather than criminals just being a criminal is something anyone can be so admiring crims
makes people feel their heroes are approachable.
[quote][i]Originally posted by ClosedSession[/i]
When I was younger I would always make someone else press the crossing button at lights, cause i was sure people had rubbed their penis on it the
night before[/quote]
I lol at anyone thinking NTER, Skeamo, Fortay, UBD etc are "fake".
I'm surprised more shit hasn't popped off on this tour. I know all these cunts well and they dont fuck around. I have witnessed hectic shit over the
years.
There is gutter rap in this country because there are true gutter cunts in the country ...after you've seen cunts heads gettin cracked with hammers,
or dudes jumping off stage half way through a set to crush someone face with a fire extinguisher ...you dont bother questioning it any more.
Originally posted by rival
I lol at anyone thinking NTER, Skeamo, Fortay, UBD etc are "fake".
I'm surprised more shit hasn't popped off on this tour. I know all these cunts well and they dont fuck around. I have witnessed hectic shit over the
years.
There is gutter rap in this country because there are true gutter cunts in the country ...after you've seen cunts heads gettin cracked with hammers,
or dudes jumping off stage half way through a set to crush someone face with a fire extinguisher ...you dont bother questioning it any more.
Yeah I dunno bout that. I think it, like most things should be questioned, I know there's no shortage of vicious angry bastards in this country and
i've seen plenty of what people are capable of. Im concerned because history's shown the ones on the losing side aren't gona be there forever. Look at
any 3rd world country where a corrupt government's been overthrown by what was once dismissed as just a street gang but now turns into a corrupt
government indistinguishable from their beaten enemies. I dont want that cycle to come into place here and am asking/searching quietly for answers as
to what people would do to stop it from happening and I know that blind loyalty to anyone whether its the cops or chopper read isn't the answer.
Originally posted by PatosBreegz
Wake up to yourself, Virgo.
Ha. That at me cuz? Wake up to what? That glorifying crime is retarded? I seen enough of the shit that cunts on hear brag about knowing about to know
that what lies behind it 99% of the time is sad frightened people just trying to fit in to some drug fucked fantasy fuelled by media, their own
selfishness and having useless supports around them. Maybe its not me who needs to wake up pathos.
I dont see it as glorifying crime. You write rhymes about your life right? If you commit crimes, theyll come out in your rhymes. Theres no glorifying
shit, thats a cop out, its being true to yourself and writing true shit.
/thread.
Grab my 2012 mixtape here: http://patosbreegz.bandcamp.com
Originally posted by rival
I lol at anyone thinking NTER, Skeamo, Fortay, UBD etc are "fake".
I'm surprised more shit hasn't popped off on this tour. I know all these cunts well and they dont fuck around. I have witnessed hectic shit over the
years.
There is gutter rap in this country because there are true gutter cunts in the country ...after you've seen cunts heads gettin cracked with hammers,
or dudes jumping off stage half way through a set to crush someone face with a fire extinguisher ...you dont bother questioning it any more.
Yeah I dunno bout that. I think it, like most things should be questioned, I know there's no shortage of vicious angry bastards in this country and
i've seen plenty of what people are capable of. Im concerned because history's shown the ones on the losing side aren't gona be there forever. Look at
any 3rd world country where a corrupt government's been overthrown by what was once dismissed as just a street gang but now turns into a corrupt
government indistinguishable from their beaten enemies. I dont want that cycle to come into place here and am asking/searching quietly for answers as
to what people would do to stop it from happening and I know that blind loyalty to anyone whether its the cops or chopper read isn't the answer.
[Edited on 7-5-2012 by rival]
I for one am not ever going to step to any of these guys all concerned, wringing my hands and suggest in anyway they should stop what they are doing
for the good of Hip Hop/mankind/whatever.
They do their thing and they do it well and dont give a fuck if people actually like it or not ...it's part of who they are ..take away the rap and
you have the same cunts doing the same shit, just not rapping about it.
Getting all uppity and concerned about it and it's impact on society and the reputation of "Australian Hip Hop" is a waste of time ...cos they don't
care.
They are a part of Hip Hop in this country and always will be ....and the strong Graffiti history roots of the Australian scene is the main reason
why.
Originally posted by Skematics
I don't condone or celebrate violence and the criminal lifestyle, however, crime is a systemic and economic problem.
if you literally have been abused your whole life, who is anyone to judge the decisions you make, be it to pursue crime or to be violent, though it
may be wrong, it comes from abandonment or misguidance...
these things aren't self inflicted.
i know some common arguments against that are 'oh mate anyone can get their shit together and get a degree and be a successful businessman' or some
condescending naive shit like that, but there is a threshold you can take before you reject a regular life. I think forcing someone to adopt an
external morality without ever having experienced it acted upon towards them is a bit unreasonable. walk a mile in someone else's shoes. furthermore,
the ability to overcome such adversity is also partly a natural thing, not everyone's gifted with it.
Allz im saying is, if you only know violence and abuse drugs etc and it helps to speak on it in a therapeutic way, at least the time and energy spent
on creating those pieces of work is time away from agony and wrong doing.
so rather than hate artists who have that raw street shit, address the streets and their conditions. such art is a reflection of those parts of the
world you may not fully understand.
TL;DR
[Edited on 7-5-2012 by Skematics]
Hit the nail on the head
Grab my 2012 mixtape here: http://patosbreegz.bandcamp.com
Originally posted by Skematics
I don't condone or celebrate violence and the criminal lifestyle, however, crime is a systemic and economic problem.
if you literally have been abused your whole life, who is anyone to judge the decisions you make, be it to pursue crime or to be violent, though it
may be wrong, it comes from abandonment or misguidance...
these things aren't self inflicted.
i know some common arguments against that are 'oh mate anyone can get their shit together and get a degree and be a successful businessman' or some
condescending naive shit like that, but there is a threshold you can take before you reject a regular life. I think forcing someone to adopt an
external morality without ever having experienced it acted upon towards them is a bit unreasonable. walk a mile in someone else's shoes. furthermore,
the ability to overcome such adversity is also partly a natural thing, not everyone's gifted with it.
Allz im saying is, if you only know violence and abuse drugs etc and it helps to speak on it in a therapeutic way, at least the time and energy spent
on creating those pieces of work is time away from agony and wrong doing.
so rather than hate artists who have that raw street shit, address the streets and their conditions. such art is a reflection of those parts of the
world you may not fully understand.
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