And this news just at hand / Sorry for not trying to change the world through raw urban expressionism and thoughtful upliftment, but sometimes you
just have to write a track about throwing shit at cunts / P.S. RIP Alan. Your casual gait, and sensible yet stylish taste in shorts and long socks
will be missed by all / In my youth, I wouldn\'t have predicted that the high point of my adult life would be exposure to a t-shirt depicting
Putin as a unicorn. But here we are./ Got half you blokes laughing at me, other half starting on me, julie wanting me money, i mean jesus whats the
point of even being straight i mays well just choof drink snort what ev / Gotta thank those vikings and all those years of gene mixing thanks to
pillaging and rape...both get a bad rap in these modern times but look what it brought us / All you swag fuckheads need to stop putting out mixtapes,
pretending to be people anyone gives a fuck about, donate your cool hats/hoody and kicks combos to the salvos and shut your fucking cuntholes / I felt
a bit dirty finger banging her right there infront of family but im pd so i said fuck that shit and kept going / Whilst u morons are trolling us old
geeks were balls deep in you young gf's anus. lenses all fogged up and sht. Weezing.
The LP's are usually scratched or in pretty ordinary condition (torn covers and no inserts - prob spent majority of their life rubbing cardboard in a
crate)
The 45's are stored better, and i think when he got them in he just marked them all at $2.85 - im not kidding. so they are all literally 2.85
This is not the case for his good LP's though.
Basketball flat peak - go JUMP like Kriss Kross/ wear Miami Heat but never heard of a Chris Bosh...
Yeah its def a valid point. And I am playing devils advocate because I always sample wax personally, no one would fuck with your beats if you didnt
when I started, but really this doesnt happen that often. The internet is going to have much rarer and interesting shit than 99.9999999 opshops. In 14
years I have discovered very little "undiscovered" music and I do try. I try to buy shit I never heard of but if its good it will invariably turn out
to be known and used. Its a big Internet.
I think sound quality is the main thing for me, and having the unique clicks and pops and warps and shit. If your all using the same rip its just the
same.
Yeah its def a valid point. And I am playing devils advocate because I always sample wax personally, no one would fuck with your beats if you didnt
when I started, but really this doesnt happen that often. The internet is going to have much rarer and interesting shit than 99.9999999 opshops. In 14
years I have discovered very little "undiscovered" music and I do try. I try to buy shit I never heard of but if its good it will invariably turn out
to be known and used. Its a big Internet.
I think sound quality is the main thing for me, and having the unique clicks and pops and warps and shit. If your all using the same rip its just the
same.
agree on the character.
in saying that man, i could spend all day on the internet and not find a sample. i could however walk into and out of the shop i visit in under an
hour and come out with gold.the internets is huge, sometimes too much choice is a bad thing.
Basketball flat peak - go JUMP like Kriss Kross/ wear Miami Heat but never heard of a Chris Bosh...
Yeah im not saying record stores dont have good records though, Mark was originally talking about discovering breaks and stuff. Ive got heaps of good
records but you could get them online one way or another for the most part.
And Im not a expert on e-digging but not been able to find a good sample in an entire day would seem a stretch to me.
Yeah im not saying record stores dont have good records though, Mark was originally talking about discovering breaks and stuff. Ive got heaps of good
records but you could get them online one way or another for the most part.
And Im not a expert on e-digging but not been able to find a good sample in an entire day would seem a stretch to me.
Devils Advocate.
What I'm saying is, for something to be available online, it must have been ripped by somebody relatively recently (in the last 15 years or so), which
means somebody out there definitely is up on the track/break (because they ripped it / uploaded it.
If you're digging for vinyl, then that limited scope is broadened (not everything that was pressed on vinyl has made it's way online yet), as there
are millions and millions of records that have bee forgotten about.
This obviously only matters if we're talking about wanting to flip something obscure (which was always the ideal in producing, no? flipping a break
nobody else was up on). If you want to make a beat that rocks the 'Big Beat' or 'Nautilus' breaks, then, by all means use one of the many rips that
are online.
Slightly off topic but are there any gear sluts that take on the same argument.
Saying no to downloading or buying a 909 or 808 drum pack/disk and hunting for the OG hardware drum machines?
The price is the obvious difference here but in essence the concept is very similar.
Someone mentioned obscurity yet I see hear of people sampling once popular groups from the 70's and 80's.
I guess at the end of the day have fun and try flip the shit out of it if you can...Id sooner hear a good beat maker sample The Black Keys for their
melody than some fucktard who's bought an overpriced James Brown record and attempted to jack a loop.
Yeah well some one had the record before it went in the store too. Someone priced it and put it on the shelf. You can walk into a record store and
thier is a chance youll find something a) listenable b) affordable c) rare
but it isnt likely. So while its a positive for vinyl i think new beatmakers in the current era, wouldnt be too worried what thier missing. Not to
mention the last 20 years isnt even on wax, and this was originally about sampling new soundtracks and shit.
Pete, other than my records and mpc, everythings in the box for me now for mixing. I got no urge to have outboard compressors, eqs, etc. Thats kind
of the same thing? Even if i was in a million doller studio Id be happy to use plugs.
Sorry to post so hard on the topic, but recording and mixing some younger emcees recently has been a eye opener. There not bogged down by all these
rules, do's and donts and theyll put a boom bap beat right next to a trap beat. And sometimes the qualitys bad but they dont really give a fuck. Only
gets played on phones and shit anyway. Its kind of refreshing tbh makes me feel like a old fuddy duddy doing everything like its 94 and theres
somekind of code.
Yeah gex its the format that I was taught so it's really all I've known. Over the years I've added on new things like midi and what not but generally
speaking its still the same game for me and it's still a blast! The NI maschine and the company has open me up to a world of exciting plug ins that I
can add in to my mix.
I use it pretty sparing but it's still good to have a little salt and pepper if you feel me
If the new beatmakers have 200gb of files, crack software and make it bang then thats awesome.
It's been intersting reading peoples takes on using current music tho.
the playing field has changed. the 'code' that you guys have mentioned is still there, but for probably the more mature/older heads. id like to think
that new jacks will either embrace the 'code' or perhaps acknowledge it to some extent.
im happy to listen to music/beats produced on anything these days. nothing beats a banging track, full stop.
im a new member to the beatmaking community, so i couldnt be fucked hunting for og breaks and stuff like that, its a click away. when hunting for
samples im a little more thorough with the sourcing.
the younger dudes coming up open new possibilities sonically with the use of sole digital tech.
i find its an exciting age for production, hate it or love it.
Yeah im not saying record stores dont have good records though, Mark was originally talking about discovering breaks and stuff. Ive got heaps of good
records but you could get them online one way or another for the most part.
And Im not a expert on e-digging but not been able to find a good sample in an entire day would seem a stretch to me.
Devils Advocate.
dont get it twisted, i never said i sampled from the internet, i said IF i looked all day id still have better luck at the record shop.
and E digging.
Is E digging looking music up on itunes, then when you found a song you like buying the wax? or is E digging sitting on youtube for samples to rip?
same as the radio. i listen to that oldies station, if i hear a track i like i will wait for the name of artist and then next time im in town go try
find the record, shit, thats half the fun - looking.
Basketball flat peak - go JUMP like Kriss Kross/ wear Miami Heat but never heard of a Chris Bosh...
Fuck i dunno really what e-digging is but I just mean looking for samples. but my point is if you cant find a dope sample on the world wide web in a
day your nets broken. Or your in Syria. Id prob start with picking up one of your better pieces of wax, and googling the players.
I find it a stretch that your local store has more wide variety of rare music than the entire internet personally, but sounds like your onto a
winner.
Fuck i dunno really what e-digging is but I just mean looking for samples. but my point is if you cant find a dope sample on the world wide web in a
day your nets broken. Or your in Syria. Id prob start with picking up one of your better pieces of wax, and googling the players.
I find it a stretch that your local store has more wide variety of rare music than the entire internet personally, but sounds like your onto a
winner.
im the only cunt in town who makes beats with wax.
My main man Grahame, the friendly shop owner, has a collection of everything from early 50's to around mid 80's early 90's, and i guess it hasnt been
pilfered like most the shops in the city, and the majority of it has come from the Town library when they gave up the library stash.
That and old peeps keep dying, then their kids just drop off the wax. probably dont know the value of it or dont care enough.
That and i make a point to be friendly when im in the shop, i talk to the owner, we discuss music and things. He lets me put records i want but cant
afford away and collect them when i can, he will also keep anything new thats come in behind counter for me to check before he sticks it on shelf.
Fuck that was a long story.
edit: for the record the internet is going to have a massive stash, but with a limited knowledge of music your not going to find shit anyway. if you
have never heard of rick wakeman your not going to google him or look him up on youtube are you?>
[Edited on 28-5-2012 by paradoxau]
Basketball flat peak - go JUMP like Kriss Kross/ wear Miami Heat but never heard of a Chris Bosh...
^^
Rick Wakeman Journey to the Centre of the Earth, wouldn't have found it if it wasn't for digging, i think you should own a record to sample it even if
it's second, third, fourth hand. It doesn't feel right otherwise, like what Mark said about the "thrill of the chase".
also op shops in the country have dirt cheap wax!
Higher Thought Collective
Half past late still awake from the hunger pains,
Half baked in a state and I can't remember what I've done today.
I havent looked but I can safely bet all the Yes albums all rick wakemans albums are on the net in the thousands. That Journey To the centre of the
earth is common as fuck. I see that one with some sort of penis everywhere too Listograph? Something. I sampled that one for Aetcix's joint with
Fatty Phew of his One Fell Swoop. If thats a rare record* then yeah op shops are the goldfields man. Internet kids can have a good knowledge too. Its
easier to get it on the net than off record sleeves.
And resonator I know what you mean. More fun, but If your a serious collector its going to come a time you have to start spending big bucks to
complete things. And thats fucked. Thats some geek shit, not about making beats and having fun at all.
Fuck i dunno really what e-digging is but I just mean looking for samples. but my point is if you cant find a dope sample on the world wide web in a
day your nets broken. Or your in Syria. Id prob start with picking up one of your better pieces of wax, and googling the players.
I find it a stretch that your local store has more wide variety of rare music than the entire internet personally, but sounds like your onto a
winner.
im the only cunt in town who makes beats with wax.
My main man Grahame, the friendly shop owner, has a collection of everything from early 50's to around mid 80's early 90's, and i guess it hasnt been
pilfered like most the shops in the city, and the majority of it has come from the Town library when they gave up the library stash.
That and old peeps keep dying, then their kids just drop off the wax. probably dont know the value of it or dont care enough.
That and i make a point to be friendly when im in the shop, i talk to the owner, we discuss music and things. He lets me put records i want but cant
afford away and collect them when i can, he will also keep anything new thats come in behind counter for me to check before he sticks it on shelf.
Fuck that was a long story.
edit: for the record the internet is going to have a massive stash, but with a limited knowledge of music your not going to find shit anyway. if you
have never heard of rick wakeman your not going to google him or look him up on youtube are you?>
[Edited on 28-5-2012 by paradoxau]
Yeah. I'm not saying that there isn't an endless supply of break available online, but more, the process of physically digging is likely to lead to
more obscure / unknown breaks - in that, by being in the op-shop, secondhand vinyl spot, you'll be looking at covers (judge a book [record] by it's
cover), reading liner notes, just finding things through a more organic process. Whereas online, I would suggest, you'd need to know what you're
looking for to begin narrowing down the search process.
I havent looked but I can safely bet all the Yes albums all rick wakemans albums are on the net in the thousands. That Journey To the centre of the
earth is common as fuck. I see that one with some sort of penis everywhere too Listograph? Something. I sampled that one for Aetcix's joint with
Fatty Phew of his One Fell Swoop. If thats a rare record* then yeah op shops are the goldfields man. Internet kids can have a good knowledge too. Its
easier to get it on the net than off record sleeves.
And resonator I know what you mean. More fun, but If your a serious collector its going to come a time you have to start spending big bucks to
complete things. And thats fucked. Thats some geek shit, not about making beats and having fun at all.
*Def not rare
never said it was rare, just something you wont find randomly browsing youtube. Well i havnt
i wasnt talking center of the earth either. but you get my point, diggin is half the fun.
^^ Yeh MArk your bang on, thats exactly what i meant!
[Edited on 28-5-2012 by paradoxau]
Basketball flat peak - go JUMP like Kriss Kross/ wear Miami Heat but never heard of a Chris Bosh...
I recently downloaded a song from itunes I love from late 60's chopped it up on the MPC and got it Bangin.I then got it on wax(cause I have always
sampled wax)from discogs which was the cheapest I could get it.And then sampled wax and chopped it again.Wax cost me $55 ,2 sample this song,there 4 I
can see how things change,cause wax is so Fuckin expensive!!I don't think Premo or Pete Rock would have sampled wax If they were 2 pay the stupid
prices we pay know.As 4 overproof ,I would keep doin what u r doin as your production on Jakes album is straight fire!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can see how things change,cause wax is so Fuckin expensive!!I don't think Premo or Pete Rock would have sampled wax If they were 2 pay the stupid
prices we pay know.
??? Record prices are at an all-time low. Sure there are "money" pieces, but on the whole, it's a buyers market, and has been for a while.
As for Premo and Pete Rock paying money for records, they are both known to have been active in the Record Convention days, and would certainly have
dropped multiple hundreds of dollars on certain records.
when sampling from mp3 i usually download compilations of world music, jazz, reggae, blues, funk, soul, garage etc. - it's easier when i can't be
fucked sifting through records
pretty sure i've found some 'obscure' shit this way, just because someone took the time to rip it doesn't mean they sampled it.
but in the end, as it's been said, the quality of the track is all that matters - if you judge tracks purely on how a producer sourced their samples
then motherfuckers need to build a bridge
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