I have not had a cigarette today, have not posted a thread about shaking and sweating. Not going to change a thing, except allow cigarette brands for
pov cunts ( paul malls, choice etc) to increase market share as most people could not tell the difference between the run of the mill dart.
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I don't smoke cigarettes. Have never smoked cigarettes and don't see the point of smoking a cigarette. I don't care if people want to smoke a
cigarette, though.
Look at my drawings if you like: http://contextvillain.tumblr.com/
I disagree on many levels with the governments right to implement this on a legal level, however, I do think that, fuck it, smoking is a massive
problem and let's see if it helps, as fuck all else works to stop people from starting. I smoke OPs so the packet doesn't matter to me.
I disagree on many levels with the governments right to implement this on a legal level, however, I do think that, fuck it, smoking is a massive
problem and let's see if it helps, as fuck all else works to stop people from starting. I smoke OPs so the packet doesn't matter to me.
What makes you think the Government wants to do anything to curb this "massive problem"??
Look at my drawings if you like: http://contextvillain.tumblr.com/
I disagree on many levels with the governments right to implement this on a legal level, however, I do think that, fuck it, smoking is a massive
problem and let's see if it helps, as fuck all else works to stop people from starting. I smoke OPs so the packet doesn't matter to me.
What makes you think the Government wants to do anything to curb this "massive problem"??
The extraordinary amount that smokers cost the public healthcare system is the main reason.
I disagree on many levels with the governments right to implement this on a legal level, however, I do think that, fuck it, smoking is a massive
problem and let's see if it helps, as fuck all else works to stop people from starting. I smoke OPs so the packet doesn't matter to me.
What makes you think the Government wants to do anything to curb this "massive problem"??
Yep. The government doesn't want to do anything that will effect the amount of money they make. A cigarette is a cigarette to them. Whether it has
gold blue or hot pink packaging. All they want to do is give the illusion that they are trying to stop people smoking. All these are just token
gestures to appease those who are too stupid to understand this.
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Do you feel strongly about any of the arguments put forward? Or have another hypothesis for the motives of such policy?
brendan o'neil is an absolute fuck head who has missed the point entirely, i strongly advise steering clear of anything he writes, unless your like me
and enjoy cringing. His argument is 'we're not zombie consumers'. who gives a fuck about the degree of persuasion, its still there and should in fact
be limited. these ads are still in your fucking face without permission day in day out, any assault on that type of global business bullshit is a good
move. people need to see this as a hinderance on big business, not consumers. Yes there are doing some shitty nanny state things going on, but to me
this doesn't fall under that.
he's also overlooked the fact that it's primarily in respect of youthful first time smokers who are legitimately more impressionable and susceptible
to these 'seductive branding campaigns'. all you need to do is see how cunts passively lap up shitty lady gaga nonsense to see that this
bully-shove-it-down-your-fucking-throat-everyday nonsense is in fact effective and detrimental to human progression. saturation techniques are fucking
real. and they do have an affect. likadikaday.
TL;DR
people who whinge about the government in this country really don't have much perspective, especially in comparison to some other governments out
there.
I disagree on many levels with the governments right to implement this on a legal level, however, I do think that, fuck it, smoking is a massive
problem and let's see if it helps, as fuck all else works to stop people from starting. I smoke OPs so the packet doesn't matter to me.
What makes you think the Government wants to do anything to curb this "massive problem"??
Yep. The government doesn't want to do anything that will effect the amount of money they make. A cigarette is a cigarette to them. Whether it has
gold blue or hot pink packaging. All they want to do is give the illusion that they are trying to stop people smoking. All these are just token
gestures to appease those who are too stupid to understand this.
Doesn't make sense. Victorian smoking rates have halved in the last 20 years or so through banning of advertising, public smoking and anti-smoking
campaigns.
Smokers also die earlier, robbing the Government of income tax, and money that isn't spent on cigarettes by smokers are spent on other items which
earn the Government money through GST/taxes.
Considering it is pretty evident the health effects smoking has, why don't they just ban it then?
Can you imagine the effects of banning a product that 15% of the population are addicted to?
The main goal will be reaching a managable amount (say 1%) and putting those people into programs and forcing them off.
I think this is a bit optimistic. I honestly don't think the government has any intentions to stop people smoking. They will keep people addicted as
long as,they can while making these token gestures. The amount of revenue they make from smoking dwarfs any amount that it costs the health system.
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Any actual smoker doesn't give a flying fuck about what colour packet their cigarettes come in. I do think it is slightly less persuasive to
on-the-fence type smokers, teenagers etc. Maybe.
I'm not a big fan of the government trying to tell people how to live and I don't want to live in Pleasantville. I also don't think "they" are just
making token gestures, I think it's more a case of one lobby fighting against another as per usual.
That Brendan O'Neil article was an actual piece of human excrement.
I don't give a shit what the Packet looks like all it's going to do is make it hard for them to tell what's what when I buy it. If it stops the
kiddies from buying Winnie optimum nights then good. It pisses me off the person who's pushing the idea is doing it cause her uncle died from smoking.
It's his life choice and im sure he would of wanted her to accept that besides this world is becoming more overpopulated day by day and smoking is
thinning out the numbers.
The amount of revenue they make from smoking dwarfs any amount that it costs the health system.
It was a Phillip Morris study that came up with that, as well as somebody looking at the difference in cigarette income tax VS healthcare costs
without taking into account the missing income tax while somebody is dead. As well as the fact that the person who isn't spending their money on
cigarettes, its spending money on other items which makes the Government money in other ways (we're just going around in circles now)
^The website was around well before the TV show arrived simply to fill time on a dedicated news channel.
Agree re: Brendan O’Neil and excrement being in alignment
And agree re: vapours’ arguments
For those saying the change will do little, did you check the YouTube clip from Adam’s article? It does really clutch at the emotional to sell its
point, but in doing so comes from only one angle which I honestly didn't think of when I first heard about plain packaging.
I don't smoke cigarettes. Have never smoked cigarettes and don't see the point of smoking a cigarette. I don't care if people want to smoke a
cigarette, though.
I used to work at a place that sold cigarettes. We used to have a display. Dudes would be like "what cigarettes do you have?". I could just point to
the display. This was good because, chances were, we did not have the obscure brand they wanted and they were free to choose from the two brands we
stocked. I would then supply them with whichever one they asked for.
Then the "don't display that shit" rule came in. Suddenly I have to explain to them which fucking brands we have, which "strengths" or whatever we
have and end up in a fucking 10 minute conversation about which one would be the closest approximation to whatever the fuck it is that they usually
smoked.
Pretty much any regulation to the sale of tobacco does nothing but annoy people who have to sell it.
edit: upon reflection, I'm not sure why I quoted Bind to say this.
I don't smoke cigarettes. Have never smoked cigarettes and don't see the point of smoking a cigarette. I don't care if people want to smoke a
cigarette, though.
I used to work at a place that sold cigarettes. We used to have a display. Dudes would be like "what cigarettes do you have?". I could just point to
the display. This was good because, chances were, we did not have the obscure brand they wanted and they were free to choose from the two brands we
stocked. I would then supply them with whichever one they asked for.
Then the "don't display that shit" rule came in. Suddenly I have to explain to them which fucking brands we have, which "strengths" or whatever we
have and end up in a fucking 10 minute conversation about which one would be the closest approximation to whatever the fuck it is that they usually
smoked.
Pretty much any regulation to the sale of tobacco does nothing but annoy people who have to sell it.
edit: upon reflection, I'm not sure why I quoted Bind to say this.
[Edited on 20-8-2012 by Toam.of.Toam.Ho]
I think you may have quoted me because when I worked at the post office I would bring up this gripe quite often and I'm p sure I've posted about it on
here.
But yeah, I used to just open the doors so cunts could see what we had rather than me have to remember names.
Whenever people asked about milligrams and shit I would just say "I don't know. I don't smoke." Then they'd usually look at me like "Why don't you
know? Are you a retard?" then I'd look at them like "Why don't you know? Are you a retard?"
Look at my drawings if you like: http://contextvillain.tumblr.com/
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