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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 11:35 AM


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 11:43 AM


It's the Aussies scene's standard to use our own accent, not the New Zealand scenes, If they wanna rap with generic accents, they can.. We shouldn't force our beliefs on them, And not all Kiwi emcee's use American accents, alot use polynesian accents.



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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 12:05 PM


^^^ and they just think its american....r0fl


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 02:16 PM


the only reason pmoney is selling beats in america is because he makes his beats in a generic amercian accent.

J-Wess wouldn't get two people at a show in New Zealand. ya'll can send digga over tho.

and if your stupid ideas that hiphop is solely business in nz how come artists like 1200 techniques can't make the carts here, and yet scribe gets to 21 in oz?

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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 02:17 PM


i can't help but notice its the same idiots that hit up every nz/oz thread. are you guys just those general people that hit up every thread using terms like 'tool' and 'toy' and 'owned' to proove your a real occa hip hop head, or did your nz uncle touch you up when you were kids?
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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 02:38 PM


shut your piehole :D (couldn't resist)


look what it is is this...


OZ and NZ have different scenes...


that is all.... we don't have to like it... or eachothers music.... thats just the way it is... one day there will be some sort of middle ground but starting awareness of each other's scenes through a publicized battle is always going to cause negative comparisons...


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 02:39 PM


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the only reason pmoney is selling beats in america is because he makes his beats in a generic amercian accent.

J-Wess wouldn't get two people at a show in New Zealand. ya'll can send digga over tho.

and if your stupid ideas that hiphop is solely business in nz how come artists like 1200 techniques can't make the carts here, and yet scribe gets to 21 in oz?

[Edited on 15-7-2004 by piehole]


If you judge hiphop by how far it goes in the charts then you know nothing about hiphop.

Hiphop is a culture, an art form, a vehicle to deliver a message.

Hiphop is not about making the charts.
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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 02:49 PM


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 03:01 PM


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yeah that is true vapours, but on the same note if your only going to judge what is real hiphop by what accent is used your a fucking idiot.


People listen to hiphop for different reasons.

If they want to just chuck it on and have something which sounds good, then sure why would you care what the person sounds like or where they are from.

If, like me, you want to listen to something with a story or message to it then I can see why the accent thing would bother people. I love researching artists and reading their history to gain an insight on why they are rapping about something inparticular. After all, hiphop is all about 'keeping it real' and putting on a different accent when you pic up the mic to me isnt keeping it real.

Ive been in Auckland for 6 weeks and the scene here is very american...none of the pride that we are used to at aussie gigs. However, thats how the scene here has developed, and its something that has to be accepted. As far as the commercial success of kiwi hiphop yes they are about 5 years ahead of us, currently theres about 3 or 4 local tunes in the top40...but culturally Id say australian hiphop is years ahead.

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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 03:40 PM


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 03:42 PM


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 03:46 PM


Im not even gettin into this circa 98 message board accent shit

if you support or do it your a cock sucker, simple




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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 03:51 PM


On a similar note

I heard a cyphantik track and scribe is now not the most lame cunt out of nz




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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 04:04 PM


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 04:12 PM


No personal digs taken, Ive had some very heated debates about it here, its all cool

At the end of the day I still go to hiphop gigs here and dance up the front and get involved and compliment the good mc's. Im not standing on the wall bitching about accents etc

Its just something which bugs me and will stop me from ever loving the style, but I still get into it..I aint that close minded.
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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 04:16 PM


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 04:22 PM


Nz acts like Fast Crew would make you think Scribe is the greatest ever :p



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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 04:46 PM


i dont believe the content of Nz hiphop is more advanced than Australian stuff. Before i gained knowledge of the Oz scene i listened to alot of nz stuff coz we made regular visits to see some of my relatives in nz. I bought White Sunday, Big Things (ironic coz p-money is tiny) and The Crusader and thought they were good but they did seem very battle-rhyme orientated with an excessive use of similies. When i got albums such as The Calling, Stormwater and An Elephant Never Forgets i thought Nz stuff was completly bland compaired to oz stuff. In my OPINION oz stuff conveys stronger messages and has alot more emotion in it. Your not advanced because you conform to a popular style of music designed to cater to the masses due to its generic-ness (if that is a word)



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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 06:47 PM


fiz:"Why dont you say something productive for once mess? you whinging bitch, just coz you understand what hes saying"

Hahahahaha, I don't understand that like I don't understand twinkle twinkle little star. I did say something productive, the truth. Understand?




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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 07:15 PM


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Originally posted by mess...I don't understand twinkle twinkle little star.


twinkle twinkle little star was written by a five year old.

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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 07:18 PM


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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 07:42 PM


So, I present and DJ a Hip Hop radio show here in London on Itch FM ( www.itchfm.com )...

Last night, I was fortunate enough to get a call, asking if I'd want P-Money to come up as a guest on my show, and of course I said yes...

He came up on the show, we had a chat about all the obvious shit (what got him started DJing, how he got into production, what he's working on currently and in the future, which DJ's / producers inspire him, etc)...

I played a handfull of tracks that he brought up with us - he is over here pushing Scribe, so we rocked a few of those joints, and I thought they sounded fresh... As did our audience, who blew up the phones while they were playing...

I asked him about the New Zealand scene, and he went on to hit the listeners and myself off with the facts about how successfull his records have been out there... 12 weeks at number one, and all that shit...

The dude is super humble, genuinely nice and he knows his shit...

We rocked the tube home, and we chatted further and I got a decent understanding of where he's coming from and how the business side of things in NZ works (in terms of the music companies)...

Now, this whole thing with him saying Australia being 5 years behind NZ -

I kind of got the impression, what he was getting at is a lot more to do with the support of the scene from the listeners and the general interest and support from the major compaines out there...

So, P-Money / Scribe etc appear to have a massive following out there in NZ - my boy, Matt from Direct Demand who bought P up to the radio station was telling me how in NZ Scribe is pretty much like a Jay-Z figure, in terms of the following he has out there...

I think, if he was reffering to the business side of things, he has a point... Shit, if that's what he's talking about, then it also applies to the UK...

We (UK Hip Hop), on a business level are miles behind NZ due to the fact that nobody in any major record company gives a fuck about us...

Our scene has been here since the early 80's, yet we still haven't seen a fraction of the interest that it appears is being shown to NZ's homegrown Hip Hop acts from thier labels...

Is it not similar in Aus'???




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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 07:46 PM


may i say something that we have been trying to drum into peoples heads from the start of this post...

scribe's fake american accent it more "sellable", for want of a better word, to the mainstream music market...therefore it makes more sence that if the larger companies can get more money out him then hey...they will!!

i know all of this has been said but i dont know if you understood what every decent Aussie Hip-Hop head has been trying to say....

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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 07:50 PM


i know all of this has been said but i dont know if you understood what every decent Aussie Hip-Hop head has been trying to say....

Of course I understand, we have the exact same issue over here - people getting hung up on accents...

I don't really see the point to be honest... On one hand, I love hearing an honest accent (by which I mean the emcee rhyming in a tone / accent that's natural to them / where they live / grew up), but I wouldn't entirely write-off an artist who doesn't rhyme in thier natural speaking voice, as I'd no doubt miss out on some quality Hip Hop...




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[*] posted on 15-7-2004 at 07:56 PM


hmmm...you have a vaid point...

to tell you the truth, im sick this topic...

this shall be my last post in here...unless someone says something to enrage me :D

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