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[*] posted on 20-7-2004 at 06:39 PM
What Microsoft hides on your computer...


From http://fuckmicrosoft.com/ (Sorry for stealing your doc)
Long and interesting read - makes you wonder what else they hide about you on your PC?
Read the disclaimer though - I nearly deleted everything on my computer by mistake.
(Try looking through User.Dat files as well using notepad as well - search for incriminating words using the find command - Cant just delete these references though)

Microsoft's Really Hidden Files v2.0
by The Riddler
May 16, 2001
(v1.0 written on June 11, 2000)
DISCLAIMER:
I will not be liable for any damage or lost information, whether due to reader's error, or any other reason.
SUMMARY:
There are folders on your computer that Microsoft has tried hard to keep secret. Within these folders you will find two (major) things: Microsoft Internet Explorer has been logging all of the sites you have ever visited -- even after you've cleared your cache, and Microsoft's Outlook and Outlook Express has been logging ALL of your e-mail correspondence -- even after you've erased them from your trashbin. (This also includes all incoming and outgoing e-mail attachments.) And believe me, that's not even the half of it.
When I say that these files are hidden well, I really mean it. If you don't have any knowledge of DOS, then don't plan on finding these files on your own. I say this because some of these files will only be found in DOS while some of these folders can only be found in Windows Explorer. Additionally, there are some folders that will not be displayed by neither DOS nor Explorer -- but can only be found using a workaround. Basically what I am saying is if you didn't know these files existed then the chances of you running across them is slim to slimmer.
To give you an example of how sneaky this is, there are three hidden folders that may contain your name, address, phone, all the sites you've visited, every single e-mail you've sent/received, every attachment you've ever sent/received, everything you've searched for in a search engine, every filename you've downloaded, names of documents containing "sensitive" information, copies of all your cookies, full readable e-mail from your hotmail account, your PGP keys, and more.
Funny that Microsoft would make no mention of this on microsoft.com.
FORWARD:
I know there are some people out there that are already aware of some of the things I mention. I also know that most people are not. The purpose of this tutorial is teach people what is really going on with Microsoft's products and how to take control of their privacy again.
Thanks for reading.
INDEX
1. DEFINITIONS AND ACRONYMS
2. WHY YOU SHOULD ERASE THESE FILES
3. HOW TO ERASE THE FILES ASAP (Recommended for the non-savvy.)
3.1) If You Own Microsoft Internet Explorer
3.2) Clearing Your Registry
3.3) If You Own Outlook Express
3.4) Slack files
3.5) Keeping Microsoft Internet Explorer (Not recommended at all.)
4. STEP-BY-STEP GUIDE THROUGH YOUR HIDDEN FILES (For the savvy.)
5. A LOOK AT OUTLOOK
6. HOW MICROSOFT DOES IT
7. +S MEANS [S]ECRET NOT [S]YSTEM
8. THE TRUTH ABOUT FIND FAST
8.1) Removing Find Fast
9. HOW HARD MICROSOFT TRIED TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM FINDING ABOUT IT
10. FINAL NOTE AND CONTACT INFORMATION
10.1) Recommended reading
11. SPECIAL THANKS
12. REFERENCES
Coming Very Soon:
mailbox.pst
pstores
Related Windows Tricks.
Reflection of why they use alphanumeric folders (9J3X7QZF4.)
Everything you didn't want to know about Find Fast.
The NSA-Key.
The [Microsoft Update] button.
Why the temp folders aren't intended to be temporary at all.
What's in those .dbx files?

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1. DEFINITIONS AND ACRONYMS
Well, the best definition I have been able to come up with is the following:
I) A "really hidden" file/folder is one that cannot be seen in Windows Explorer after enabling it to view all files, cannot be seen in MS-DOS after receiving a directory listing, and cannot be searched through using the "Find" utility.
a) There is at least one workaround to enabling Explorer to see them.
b) There is at least one workaround to enabling MS-DOS to see them.
c) There is at least one workaround to enabling the "Find" utility to search through them.
d) They are hidden intentionally.
II) Distinguishes "really hidden" file/folders from just plain +h[idden] ones, such as your "MSDOS.SYS" or "Sysbckup" folder.
III) Distinguishes from certain "other" intended hidden files, such as a file with a name of "_x."
DOS = Disk Operating System
MSIE = Microsoft Internet Explorer
TIF = Temporary Internet Files (folder)
HD = Hard Drive
OS = Operating System


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2. WHY SHOULD I ERASE THESE FILES?
1) Besides the glaring privacy risks.
2) Besides the fact that Microsoft is keeping these logs intentionally. (For reasons I can only imagine.)
3) These files can take up huge amounts of disk space. I've personally inspected a computer with almost 200 megs of this stuff, so you can imagine how much this can slow your computer down. After following these instructions you will probably notice a great improvement in performance.


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3. HOW TO ERASE THE FILES ASAP
Step by step information on how to erase these files as soon as possible. This section is recommended for the non-savvy. Further explanation can be found in Section 4.0. Please note that following these next steps will erase all your cache files, all your cookie files, and all of your e-mail correspondence. If you use the offline content feature with MSIE, following these next steps will remove this as well.


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3.1. IF YOU OWN A COPY OF MICROSOFT INTERNET EXPLORER
1) Shut your computer down, and turn it back on.
2) While your computer is booting keep pressing the [F8] key until you are given an option screen.
3) Choose "Command Prompt Only" (This will take you to true DOS mode.)
4) When your computer is done booting, you will have a C:> followed by a blinking cursor. Type in this hitting enter after each line.

CDWINDOWSTEMPOR~1
DELTREE/Y CONTENT.IE5
(If that didn't work then type this:)

CDWINDOWSAPPLIC~1TEMPOR~1
DELTREE/Y CONTENT.IE5
(If that didn't work then type this:)

CDWINDOWSLOCALS~1TEMPOR~1
DELTREE/Y CONTENT.IE5
(If this still does not work, and you are sure you are using MSIE5, then please e-mail me. Finding the location of these is a mission, and I'd certainly like to know where else MSIE likes to hide its cache. I believe older versions of MSIE keep them under "c:windowscontent".)
5) This will take a ridiculous amount of time to process. The longer it takes, the more records Microsoft had stored about you. When it gets done erasing that folder, then type this:

CD
DELTREE/Y TEMP
DELTREE/Y WIN386.SWP
CD WINDOWS
DELTREE/Y COOKIES
DELTREE/Y TEMP
DELTRE/Y WIN386.SWP
DELTREE/Y HISTORY


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3.2. CLEARING YOUR REGISTRY
Reboot your computer and wait for Windows to load back up.
1) Drop to DOS ("Start" > "Program Files" > "MS-DOS Prompt") and type this at prompt:

regedit
2) Your Registry Editor will pop up. Go to "Edit" > "Find"
3) Type in "TypedURLs" and then hit [Find Next]. You will be taken to all the places you've typed in URLs manually. 4) Erase any URLs that you find. Do not erase the folders. (They will be called "01," "02," "03," etc...) Double click on them to make sure they are URLs. I found mine here:

HKEY_USERS/Default/Software/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/TypedURLs/
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/TypedURLs/
5) and while you're in here you might as well go here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace/
{d6277990-4c6a-11cf-8d87-00aa0060f5b5}
6) Delete the {d6277990-4c6a-11cf-8d87-00aa0060f5b5} key. This will make the "Find: Files or Folders" utility perform searches much faster.


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3.3. IF YOU HAVE OUTLOOK OR OUTLOOK EXPRESS INSTALLED
1) Install another e-mail program like Eudora, or Pegasus Mail. Make sure everything is setup correctly.
2) Backup any e-mail that you wish to save. (Print them out, or forward them to another box.)
3) Uninstall Outlook.
Warning, this conveniently does not erase any e-mail correspondence. To double check drop back to your DOS prompt and type this:

dir *.mbx /s/p
dir *.mbx /s/p/ah
The files you are looking for are:
INBOX.MBX
OUTBOX.MBX
SENTIT~1.MBX
DELETE~1.MBX
DRAFTS.MBX
If these files come up they will be listed in either of these folders:

C:WindowsApplication DataMicrosoftOutlook ExpressMail
C:Program Filesinternet mail and news%USER%mail
(If the .mbx files are located anywhere else then you probably don't want to delete them since they aren't from outlook. If they are from outlook, however, then please e-mail me.)
Now type either of the following (depending on the location of your .mbx files). Remember, this will erase all your e-mail correspondence so backup what you want to keep by printing them out or forwarding them to another box. Hopefully by now you have already set up Eudora or Pegasus Mail.

CDWINDOWSAPPLIC~1MICROS~1OUTLOO~1
DELTREE/Y MAIL
or

CDPROGRA~1INTERN~1%USER%
(replace "%user%" with the proper name.)

DELTREE/Y MAIL

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3.4. SLACK FILES
As you may already know, deleting files only deletes the references to them. They are in fact still sitting there on your HD and can be easily recovered by anyone.

BCWipe is a nice program that will clear these files.
For you DOS buffs, there's a program called FileDust that got a 5 star rating on ZDNET, if that matters.
If you are using PGP then there is a "Freespace Wipe" option under PGPtools.
Norton Utilities has a nice filewiping utility.
You might want to check out Evidence Eliminator's 30 day trial. This is probably the best program as far as your privacy goes.

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3.5. KEEPING MICROSOFT INTERNET EXPLORER
If you insist on using Microsoft Internet Explorer then I strongly recommend that you check out at least one of these programs:

PurgeIE
Anonymizer Window Washer
Cache and Cookie Washer for IE
I have already tried and tested some other programs and you'd be surprised on how many of them DON'T pass the tests. For example, HistoryKiller 2001 claims it erases all the files, but don't count on it.


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4. STEP-BY-STEP GUIDE THROUGH YOUR HIDDEN FILES
This next section is for those of you who are more interested in learning the ins and outs of your computer. This section is intended for the savvy user.
1) First, drop to DOS and type this at prompt (in all lower-case):

c:windowsexplorer /e,c:windowstempor~1content.ie5
You see all those alphanumeric names listed under "content.ie5?" (left-hand side) That's Microsoft's idea of making this project as hard as possible. (Earlier versions of Internet Explorer simply called them "cache#.") These are your alphanumeric folders that MSIE has created to keep your cookies and cache. Write these names down. (They should look something like this: 6YQ2GSWF, QRMTKLWF, U7YHQKI4, 7YMZ516U, WQK6Z9UV, etc...) If you click on any of these folders then nothing will be displayed. Not because there aren't any files here, but because Windows Explorer has lied to you. If you want to view the contents of these alphanumeric folders you will have to do so in DOS. (Actually, there is a workaround that Skywalker taught me, but it's a little bit harder to explain. I promise to cover this tip in the next version.)
2) Restart in MS-DOS mode. (You must restart because windows has "locked" down some of the files.)
3) Type this in at prompt:

CDWINDOWSTEMPOR~1CONTENT.IE5
CD %alphanumeric%
(replace the "%alphanumeric%" with the first name that you just wrote down.)

DIR/P
Note: Not only are you in a folder that DOS claims does not exist, but you are now looking at cache/cookies that Windows Explorer claims do not exist.
These folders are directly responsible for the mysterious erosion of hard drive space you may have been noticing. Just a couple interesting things you can find in here:

Pictures from all those porn sites you've visited.
Other internet cache files completely wasting your disk space.
If you use Hotmail (or any webmail service) you can probably see some of your old messages laying around here. To see them for yourself, copy them into another directory and open them with your browser.
Retrieving your personal information from these cookies is a snap. For example if you've ever shopped at Amazon.com then there's access to your name and e-mail. If you're a user on Hollywood.com then there's your city, state, and zip. MP3.com keeps some goodies as well.
Feel free to check out all your alphanumeric folders, before going on to the next step.
5) Type this in:

CDWINDOWSTEMPOR~1CONTENT.IE5
EDIT /75 INDEX.DAT (or "EDIT /16 index.dat")
You will be brought to a blue screen with a bunch of binary.
6) Press and hold the [Page Down] button until you start seeing lists of URLs. These are all the sites that you've ever visited as well as a brief description of each. You'll notice it records everything you've searched for in a search engine in plain text, in addition to the URL.
7) When you get done searching around you can go to "File" > "Exit."
8) Next you'll probably want to erase these files by typing this:

DELTREE/Y C:WINDOWSTEMPOR~1
(replace "c:windowstempor~1" with the location of your TIF folder if different.)
This will take a seriously long time to process. Then go check out your History.
9) Type this:

CDWINDOWSHISTORYHISTORY.IE5
EDIT /75 INDEX.DAT (or "EDIT /16 index.dat")
You will be brought to a blue screen with more binary.
10) Press and hold the [Page Down] button until you start seeing lists of URLS again.
This is another recording of the sites you've visited. There also may be some other things in here. E-mail me if you find anything interesting. I will share with you a snippet of what I found in my index.dat file.

Client UrlCache
MMF Ver 5.2@
@ 3 yi

O_ :+0
0_
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}*_ 5.t
xt
59

MS6C:%

\DAVE'S
HD.TXT
MSIE5.
C:
Did you note the "C:" and "\DAVE'S HDMSIE5.TXT"?
"Dave" is the fictitious name that I use on my computer. "Dave's HD" is the name of my root folder on my LAN. "MSIE5.TXT" is the name of a text file that I've been saving on my computer. It contains research from THIS project that I've been working on. Mostly URLs and notes.
Do you see anything wrong with this picture? It took notice on a file on my HD, folks. MY HARD DRIVE. Not only that, but it is saving it in a folder that cannot be seen by neither DOS nor Windows Explorer. Is it a coincidence that this file was related to the research of this tutorial?
Obviously, my first suspicion was that Microsoft was scanning my HD and logging any "sensitive" information. In this case, my msie5.txt probably had something in it that Microsoft didn't like. To read more about my findings read "THE TRUTH ABOUT FIND FAST" in section 8.0.
1) If you're still with me, type this:
CDWINDOWSHISTORY
2) check out the mmXXX.dat files (and delete them), then type:

CDWINDOWSHISTORYHISTORY.IE5
CD MSHIST~1
EDIT /75 INDEX.DAT (or "EDIT /16 index.dat")
More URLs from your internet history. Note there are probably other mshist~x folders here. 3) You can repeat these steps for every occurrence of the mshistxxxxxxxx file.
4) By now you'll probably want to type in this:

CD WINDOWS
DELTREE/Y HISTORY
This is about it as far as I know. You may also want to take a look at your *.mbx files if you own Outlook. (dir *.mbx/s) More detailed information is covered in the next chapter.


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5. A LOOK AT OUTLOOK EXPRESS
Would you think twice about what you said if you knew it was being recorded? E-mail correspondence leaves a permanent record of everything you've said -- even after you've told Outlook to erase it. You are given a false sense of security sense you've erased it twice, so surely it must be gone. The first time Outlook simply moves it to your "Deleted Items" folder. The second time you erase it Outlook simply "pretends" it is gone. The truth is your messages are still being retained in a "really hidden folder."
Furthermore, as if that wasn't disturbing enough, Outlook Express also keeps records of EVERY SINGLE file attachment in an ENCRYPTED database. Can you believe this, folks?
For example, I attached this zip file and sent it to myself.

PK '_*}_ P AAA-_ )-8_PK +_*8M3 P
BBB-_ _%-8_PK ._*._ P CCC-_ !-8_PK
2_*_ ` P DDD-_ -8_PK '_*}_ P
AAAPK +_*8M3 P 1BBBPK
._*._ P bCCCPK 2_*_ ` P
"DDDPK
And it recorded this in both my inbox.mbx file and outbox.mbx file:

UEsDBBQAAAAIACeFjip9jZkaEAAAAFAAAAADAAAAQUFBrcCBAAAAAIAg1vgpljizAFBLAwQUAAAA
CAArhY4qOPhNMxAAAABQAAAAAwAAAEJCQq3AgQAAAACAINf4JZY4swBQSwMEFAAAAAgALoWOKsTW
Lp0QAAAAUAAAAAMAAABDQ0OtwIEAAAAAgCDY+CGWOLMAUEsDBBQAAAAIADKFjiqyEuVgEAAAAFAA
AAADAAAARERErcCBAAAAAIAg2fgdljizAFBLAQIUABQAAAAIACeFjip9jZkaEAAAAFAAAAADAAAA
AAAAAAEAIAAAAAAAAABBQUFQSwECFAAUAAAACAArhY4qOPhNMxAAAABQAAAAAwAAAAAAAAABACAA
AAAxAAAAQkJCUEsBAhQAFAAAAAgALoWOKsTWLp0QAAAAUAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAQAgAAAAYgAAAEND
Q1BLAQIUABQAAAAIADKFjiqyEuVgEAAAAFAAAAADAAAAAAAAAAEAIAAAAJMAAABERERQSwUGAAAA
AAQABADEAAAAxAAAAAAA
Cheers to the first person to discover the algorithm.
Anyway, by now you are probably wishing you knew where these records were kept. Don't worry they're right here:

c:program filesinternet mail and news%user%mail*.mbx
(replace %user% with the name you use.)
Or, if you're lucky:

c:windowsapplication datamicrosoftoutlookmail*.mbx
I found it odd that the first time I installed outlook, my e-mail data was saved automatically into "internet mail and news." After I uninstalled and reinstalled, it changed its mind and put it into my "application data."
To erase these files simply type: (of course if you do this you will kill all of your e-mail messages, so backup what you want to keep.)

Deltree c:windowsintern~1%user%mail
or

Deltree c:windowsapplic~1micros~1outloo~1mail

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6. HOW MICROSOFT DOES IT
Ever wonder how Microsoft makes these folders invisible to both DOS and Windows Explorer? I was completely baffled by how Microsoft was accomplishing this since even using a DOS 6.2 boot disk wouldn't work for me. I was honestly pretty upset that the answer escaped me for so long, but after wondering around in the folders I finally figured it out.
The "desktop.ini" is a standard text file that can be added to any folder to customize certain aspects of the folder's behavior. In these cases, Microsoft utilized the desktop.ini file to make these files invisible. Invisible to Windows Explorer, invisible to DOS, and even invisible to the "Find" Utility (so you wouldn't be able to perform searches in these folders!)
Here are a couple examples:
Found in the c:windowstemporary internet filesdesktop.ini and the c:windowstemporary internet filescontent.ie5desktop.ini contains this text:

[.ShellClassInfo]
UICLSID={7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}
Found in the c:windowshistorydesktop.ini and the c:windowshistoryhistory.ie5desktop.ini contains this text:

[.ShellClassInfo]
UICLSID={7BD29E00-76C1-11CF-9DD0-00A0C9034933}
CLSID={FF393560-C2A7-11CF-BFF4-444553540000}
The UICLSID line cloaks the folder in both DOS and Explorer. The CLSID line disables the "FIND" utility from searching through the folder. Additionally, it gives a folder the appearance of the "History" folder. (You'll know what I mean if you fiddle with them enough.)
Erasing these desktop.ini files will give DOS and Windows Explorer proper viewing functionality once again. The problem with erasing them is windows will reconstruct them on your next bootup. The workaround is to edit the desktop.ini files and remove everything except for the [.ShellClassInfo]. This will trick windows into thinking they have still covered their tracks, so they won't think to reconstruct them again.
By the way, if you erase these keys from your Registry it will not un-hide these folders. Still, I'm sure somebody could play with this enough to figure out a way to completely disable Microsoft from ever hiding files on your computer again.


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7. +S MEANS [S]ECRET NOT [S]YSTEM
Here are three easy true or false questions regarding DOS. Play along like you needed to know the answers to get your A+ certification.
1) True or false: Executing the dir/s command in root will display all the "normal" files and directories on your hard drive.
The correct answer is 'true.'
2) True or false: Executing the dir/s/ah command in root will display all the "hidden" files and directories on your hard drive.
Again, the correct answer is 'true.'
3) True or false: Executing the dir/s/as command in root will display all the "system" files and directores on your hard drive.
The correct answer is 'you wish.'
When DOS tries to get a list of the subdirectories of any +s[ystem] folder it hits a brick wall. Not only does this mean Microsoft has taken extra precautions to keep people from finding these files, but it defeats the whole purpose of the "/s" switch in the first place. Nice one.
In case you didn't understand, here's a small experiment that will show you what I mean.
Since the content.ie5 and history.ie5 subfolders are both located within a +s[ystem] folder, we will run the experinment with them. The proper command to locate them should be this:

CD
DIR *.IE5 /s/as
The problem is that you will receive a "No files found" error message.
This proves that all subfolders/files that are located within a system folder will not be listed. But believe me, it's there.
Now, the really interesting thing is that you (luckily) can get around this brick wall. That is, once you are in the system folder, then the brick wall no longer has an effect on the directory listings. For example:

CDWINDOWSTEMPOR~1
DIR *.IE5 /as
1 folder(s) found.
Oh good, now you can see them. (But only after you knew the exact location.) In other words, if you didn't know the folders existed then finding them would be almost impossible.


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8. THE TRUTH ABOUT FIND FAST
Have you ever wondered what that "Find Fast" program was under your control panel? I've spent about an hour on microsoft.com reading help files and I STILL have no clue of what it's good for. Here's the most informative snippet I found on microsoft.com.
"The Find Fast Indexer is a utility that builds indexes to speed finding documents using the Open and Open Office Documents commands in Microsoft Office programs, including Microsoft Outlook."
So what does that mean? Well, if you read it carefully you'll see that Microsoft never mentions that it will speed up your searches. In fact it has nothing to do with the "Find: Files or Programs" utility. I think what Microsoft is really trying to say is that when you go to "File" > "Open" under Microsoft Word, then your list of documents will be displayed quicker.
If that is what they are saying then it is a lie. I hope you don't think I am taking Microsoft's quote out of context here. I'm only trying to show you all the methods that Microsoft went through to make it appear that the Find Fast utility speeds up searches.
For example if you go to "Edit" (under Microsoft Word), you will notice there is a "Fast Find" icon next to it. (Binoculars icon.) This is usally a clear indication that it is related to the Find Fast program. However, if you re-read that quote, it doesn't mention anything about finding words "within" a document, but only the document itself. Here are some more quotes from Microsoft:
"The Find Fast Indexer tool tracks the location on the hard disk of all Microsoft Word for Windows documents by default. When one of these files is moved, the Find Faster Indexer tool updates its index."
"Indexes are used to make file searches faster in Office programs."
"The Find Fast Indexer is installed on your computer when you install Microsoft Office 97. Find Fast builds an index to speed up finding documents from the Open dialog box in Microsoft Office programs."
I wasn't able to find one single shred of evidence that it helped you "search" faster. Yet, Microsoft insisted on calling the program "Find Fast." THEN they decided to add the Find Fast icon next to the [Search Document], as if Find Fast had anything to do with searching the document.
So now do you think you know the truth?
What would you say if I told you that Find Fast was scanning and indexing every single file on your hard drive? Did you know that in Office 95, the Find Fast Indexer had an "exclusion" list comprised of .exe, .swp, .dll and other extensions, but the feature was eliminated? If you were a programmer, would you program Find Fast to index every single file, or just the ones with Office extensions?
Here are some other interesting facts:
Find Fast automatically loads on every boot (because it added to your Startup folder.)
If you have ever had problems with scandisk (restarting due to "disk writes."), it is because Find Fast was indexing your hard drive in the background.
Now here is a good example of the lengths Microsoft has gone through to keep people from finding out Find Fast indexes their hard drives. (Always good to have an alibi.) And I quote:
"When you specify the type of documents to index in the Create Index dialog box, Find Fast includes the document types that are listed in the following table.
Doc Type File Name Extension
Microsoft Office files All the Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Web documents PowerPoint, Microsoft Project, and Microsoft Word document types listed in this table. Microsoft Binder (.odb, .obt) and Microsoft Access (.mdb) files. Note that in .mdb files, only document properties are indexed.
Microsoft Excel workbooks .xl* files
Microsoft PowerPoint files .ppt (presentation), .pot (template), .pps (auto-running presentation) files
Microsoft Project files .mpp, .mpw, .mpt, .mpx, .mpd files
Microsoft Word documents .doc (document), .dot (template), .ht* (Hypertext Markup Language document), .txt (text file), .rtf (Rich Text Format) files
All files *.* files

Did you get that last part? If you were a wealthy man and you decided to buy every single car in the car lot, would you
a) Say, "I'll take the red ones, the blue ones, the silver ones, the white ones, the champagne ones, and all of them," or
b) "I'll take them all sir."
As you can see, they don't want people to realize that Find Fast is keeping an index of your entire hard drive. They walk around the car lot saying "I'll take the red ones, the blue ones, the silver ones,..."
I personally witnessed the Find Fast Indexer "creep" its way back into my Startup folder after I removed it. There's no possible way I could have done this on purpose. In fact the only way I could have done it is if I created a shortcut to Find Fast and then moved the shortcut into Startup manually. There's no option on the Find Fast program to add it to Startup.
Am I making this up? Did I imagine it? Well, even if I am, then that doesn't change the overwhelming amount of inconsistencies. For example:
1) Drop to DOS
2) CD
3) DIR FF*.* /AH (This will bring up a listing of ffast-related files.)
4) edit /75 %ff% (insert %ff% with any of the names that were listed.)
Notice the incredible amount of disk accesses to your "really hidden" "Temporary Internet Files" folder? What is the obsession that Find Fast has with these hidden folders, anyway?


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8.1. REMOVING THE FIND FAST PROGRAM
1) Reboot your computer in MS-DOS Mode.
2) Delete the FindFast.CPL file from c:windowssystem
3) Delete the shortcut under c:windowsstart menuprogramsstartup
4) Delete the FindFast.EXE file from c:progra~1micros~1office
Other related files that are safe to erase:
5) FFNT.exe, FFSetup.dll, FFService.dll, FFast_bb.dll, "c:>ff*.*"
Notice you will loose no functionality after erasing these files? Actually, you will gain functionality.


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9. HOW HARD MICROSOFT TRIED TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM FINDING ABOUT IT
In case the desktop.ini file wasn't enough proof. ("Whoops, we didn't know the desktop.ini file would turn folders invisible?") And in case you thought disabling DOS's "/s" switch for system folders was just a "bug." And in case you thought Microsoft disabled the Find utility from searching through the folders just to save you time (uh huh) -- then feel free to check out this thread on the Hackers.com BBS.


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10. FINAL NOTE AND CONTACT INFO
This tutorial is being updated ALL THE TIME. If you have any input then please e-mail me so I can compile it into future versions. You may have noticed many requests to contact me throughout this tutorial. This is because I am very eager to find out everything there is to know about this. But just so I am not swamped with old updates, please make sure you are reading the most current version.
My e-mail address is located below. Although it may not be done in a timely fasion, I always reply to all of my e-mail. By the way, I deleted my PGP due to security reasons. So if you want to contact me privately, then I'm sure we can work out something else.
Thanks for reading, -- The Riddler
e-mail: mailto:ther1ddler@fuckmicrosoft.com?Subject=Feedback from fuckMicrosoft.com Article
hangout: http://www.hackers.com/bulletin/


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10.1. RECOMMENDED READING
And if you aren't already paranoid enough here's some sites/articles that I definitely reccomend:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18002.html
http://www.findarticles.com/m0CGN/3741/55695355/p1/article.j...
http://www.mobtown.org/news/archive/msg00492.html
http://194.159.40.109/05069801.htm
http://www.yarbles.demon.co.uk/mssniff.html
http://www.macintouch.com/o98security.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/3079.html
http://www.fsm.nl/ward/
http://slashdot.org/
http://www.peacefire.org/
http://stopcarnivore.org/
http://nomorefakenews.com/
http://grc.com/steve.htm#project-x


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11. SPECIAL THANKS
Thank you Skywalker, for being in the right place at the right time. You were the only one who seemed interested in helping me further my research.
Thank you to everybody who has e-mailed me specifically just to thank me. The kind words mean a lot to me and played a big motivator to get this text finished.
And thank you to Hackers.com, for developing a fantatsic site with a great community feel, without which, this tutorial would never have existed.


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12. REFERENCES
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q137/1/13.a...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q136/3/86.a...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q169/5/31.A...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q141/0/12.a...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q205/2/89.A...
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q166/3/02.A...
http://www.insecure.org/sploits/Internet.explorer.web.usage....
http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&dis...
http://www.hackers.com/bulletin/
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/05/11/173257.shtml
http://peacefire.org/

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wow, i cant belive i read that all.



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I know windows isnt good.

but I'm in a nice little rut with my windows 98 and I dont want to change now.




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in 7 minutes? i dont think so orbs
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i admit. i skiped reading the links.



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i almost did...

u rekon its the same for a mac??? (assuming its tru)

and: "As you may already know, deleting files only deletes the references to them. They are in fact still sitting there on your HD and can be easily recovered by anyone." i kno this is tru but how come they dont take up any space???




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Didnt read it.



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hmmm scary ish

i didnt read it all but still i shall one day




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That's why true geeks use Linux.



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thats how cops can get info off your pc - websites and every key ever pressed.... msn convos and shit
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i almost did...

u rekon its the same for a mac??? (assuming its tru)

and: "As you may already know, deleting files only deletes the references to them. They are in fact still sitting there on your HD and can be easily recovered by anyone." i kno this is tru but how come they dont take up any space???



I dont know about macs and im not even sure about PCs but when I bought my PC it was supposed to be 14 gig instead it was 13.2 or something like that. When I asked IBM they said that that was normal and it was never right on 14... how shit i thought but that would expalin it...damn microsoft damn gates damn the lot of em i tells ya
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yeh same here it wasnt exact it was like 19. something... and i hadnt installed anything. no word no excel no nothing



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I like how Mac users can never find reasons why they think Macintosh computers are better.... Only why windows PC's are worse.



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I like how Mac users can never find reasons why they think Macintosh computers are better.... Only why windows PC's are worse.


if something is "worse" than the alternative, surely the alternative is better by default.

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Gates will only find porn sites/porn/mp3s/emails asking my mother for money in my pc.

Nothing to alert the press about.




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I dont know about macs and im not even sure about PCs but when I bought my PC it was supposed to be 14 gig instead it was 13.2 or something like that. When I asked IBM they said that that was normal and it was never right on 14... how shit i thought but that would expalin it...damn microsoft damn gates damn the lot of em i tells ya


This is nothing to do with microsoft (almost),
it is a common practice for harddrive manufacturers define a gigabyte as 1,000,000,000 bytes (decimal). Most operating systems define it as 1,073,741,824 bytes (binary). hence the difference in sisze after it is formatted.
I said almost because if you have ever installed XP you may of noticed that sometimes it creates another system partition of around 8mb that is hidden for use by the operating system?


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and: "As you may already know, deleting files only deletes the references to them. They are in fact still sitting there on your HD and can be easily recovered by anyone."
i kno this is tru but how come they dont take up any space???


The files don't take up any space because the OS no longer has a record of them, they are sitting in space it believes to be free to use (and will use), but u can use programs to examine (and recover) files that occupy this space. Also even files that have been written over by newer files can be recovered with very specialised scans. don't know much about it but i think it is something like the faint ghosting you used to get when dubbing over tapes sometimes.




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and: "As you may already know, deleting files only deletes the references to them. They are in fact still sitting there on your HD and can be easily recovered by anyone."
i kno this is tru but how come they dont take up any space???


The files don't take up any space because the OS no longer has a record of them, they are sitting in space it believes to be free to use (and will use), but u can use programs to examine (and recover) files that occupy this space. Also even files that have been written over by newer files can be recovered with very specialised scans. don't know much about it but i think it is something like the faint ghosting you used to get when dubbing over tapes sometimes.


Yeah. For efficiency reasons, when you delete something all Windows will delete is the reference to the memory address(es) that stored the data, then report the amount of space it occupied as free. This is probably for efficiency purposes...I'm not sure whether a hard drive will ever actually "delete" anything...just write over spaces that the OS reports as free.

Knowing this...if you ever trade in your HDD or computer with HDD in it, it becomes obvious that you should never just format your drive or delete the entire contents...because they'll still be recoverable if the people you deal with are so inclined....you have to go to greater lengths to ensure your shit can't be retrieved.




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