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[*] posted on 25-1-2009 at 11:17 PM


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

theres your nerve centre/ office administration of the new world order.

completly without oversight by the public, overseen instead by steering commitees who are personally elected by the 13 bloodlines of the illuminati.

and this is the 13 familys that control these groups, that founded them and that set policy.

1. The Astor Bloodline

2. 2. The Bundy Bloodline

3.3. The Collins Bloodline

4.4. The DuPont Bloodline

5.5. The Freeman Bloodline

6 6. The Kennedy Bloodline

7 7. The Li Bloodline

8.8. The Onassis Bloodline

9 9. The Reynolds bloodline

110. The Rockefeller Bloodline

11. The Rothschild Bloodline

12. The Russell Bloodline

13. The Van Duyn Bloodline

Merovingian] (European Royal Families)

Interconnected families:

The Disney Bloodline

The Krupp Bloodline

The McDonald Bloodline

google each one and show me how they DONT steer world affairs.

edit: you wont believe any of that i know. because you recognise some like mcdonald and disney and think "bullshit" hamburgers and mickey mouse want to rule the world!! pffft!!

look at the history. look at what they do today. its economic colonialism. not to be confused with capatalism.

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[*] posted on 25-1-2009 at 11:19 PM


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i.e. the bloke who invented a car that could run on water was murdered


The old "water car" gem.

A) The "water cell" is a load of bullcrap and is nothing but pseudoscience. Anyone who believe's that running a car on the amount of energy Stan Meyers proposed is an idiot and has no understanding of the fundamentals of physics.

B) Stan Meyers was not murdered, he died of a brain aneurysm




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[*] posted on 25-1-2009 at 11:34 PM


there is a reason we are only now seeing roll outs of "green" energy. previously there was no money to be made from it. now with the workings of a carbon tax they say yes, and everybody else agrees.

running a car on water is possible. take four wheel mounted electric engines, solar panels for intial input of energy, water fuel cells for additional energy, braking energy and a low profile and you will have a car that is running on something other than fossil fuels or bio fuels.

thats one way.

another is to use the intial input of energy to convert water into two gasses and burn them to run an engine. i know without the intial input of energy you cant get something out of nothing. a lot of the myths around that are just myths, made popular for ratings/book sales.

all that falls under "if theres no profit in it for big businesses of the nwo it wont happen on a large scale".

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[*] posted on 25-1-2009 at 11:55 PM


Phatchance pretty much nailed it.
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[*] posted on 25-1-2009 at 11:55 PM


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Honestly, here is the major flaw in your argument Ducksick and Noal, and this is the argument I use in most cases where a 'grand conspiracy' is suggested.

The conspiracy you suggest requires the independent movement of thousands (let's be real; millions) of individuals, all with a set of class-elite goals and a depth of knowledge in regards to the premises of their conspiracy. They need to communicate secretly, they need management systems etc. Hell, our government can't even stop people scamming centrelink, what makes you think the US government, that allows millions of people to evade taxes and border jump, can someone create this grand design? What's really going on is billions of conflicting ideals, desires and interests with simple algorithmic patterns are resulting in the development of the systems you see around you, you're demanding a sky hook built the city, when you can see the cranes if you look for them. It's impossible for their to be a human-made grand design, this is just a replacement for god and the devil you use to attempt to give reason to the universe around you.

But hey, just a quick wake up call for you;

What the fuck is the universe? What the fuck are your lives? What the fuck is a 'conspiracy' and why is it bad?

This is just one more justification for the uncertainty of the world around you, and getting aggressive and elitist in the way you're attempting to push a message benefits no one. There are injustices in the world, they should be dealt with, this is fine and noble. harking on about some grand plan to brain wash everyone with fluoride (honestly, what the fuck is wrong with you people?) helps no one.



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The conspiracy you suggest requires the independent movement of thousands (let's be real; millions) of individuals, all with a set of class-elite goals and a depth of knowledge in regards to the premises of their conspiracy.


Do you not know how secret societies operate? Do you not know what the illuminati structure of rings within rings is? Cecil Rhodes ordered his secret society to be organized like the illuminati.

It's all compartmentalization. Everyone is on a need to know basis. The people being used as pawns don't realize that they're part of a bigger plan. That's how this system can sustain hits, because there are only a handful of families who are making the top decisions. It's a very complex structure.

It's just like the people who believe Osama bin laden was responsible for 9/11, they believe that it had to be him because of some distorted/child like understanding of how black operations work, they think too many people within the US government and intelligence agencies would had to have been involved. Which is laughable.

To say this New World Order conspiracy needs millions is not being real, it's being very ignorant. Yes, there are many people within the CFR, Bilderberg group who believe that a New World Order of global government is something to stride for, but they're also not the people making the top decisions. It's the ring around the ring around the ring around the ring, and every ring doesn't see the inner ring and thus do not have the even more esoteric knowledge that the inner ring(s) has.


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harking on about some grand plan to brain wash everyone with fluoride (honestly, what the fuck is wrong with you people?) helps no one.


We're saying fluoride is dumbing us down and effecting our health (note: fluoride was first put into water in the nazi concentration camps..yeah must have been for the health of the inmates teeth). TV and the education system are the brainwashing machines. That's why you're defending your own enslavement. What the fuck is wrong with people who think not being able to have a choice for their water supply to not be contaminated with a toxic is OK?

What about the poor people of society who cannot afford the reverse osmosis units to get the fluoride out of the water? Do you think just because you're a filthy rich cunt that their right of being able to choose to not have their water supply medicated is not important?
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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 12:05 AM


http://durand.com.au/fluoridefilters.html

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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 12:33 AM


haha one-inch-punch the drone mindlessly follows the Judas goat to the slaughter

Now in the words of a great man
"Alex (Jones) Hip-Hop stands with you. Straight up. Let me say that, we stand with you and when it's time to get on the front line you better look to your right and your left and I hope I'm right there with you" - KRS-One


Can't wait for the video interview they did. KRS has some powerful insight into what's goin on.
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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 12:54 AM


one sheep on the farm wanders up to the farmers house and looks in the window.

"oh my god! thats one of us on the dinner table!"

the sheep runs back down to the sheep pen screaming

"the farmers are eating us!! the farmers are eating the sheep!!"

the other sheep laugh "the farmers love us! they give us food and shelter, they keep us healthy, they wouldnt eat us! your crazy!"

then one inch punch and phatchance trot over "it would take a million farmers all working in secret to eat us, look how many sheep there are, i think we would know." "phatchance pretty much nailed it"

hahahaha. (stolen adapated joke btw)

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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 03:11 AM


Ok, some points for you to consider.

Firstly, if this grand design conspiracy exists, as you purport it does. Why exactly would they, given the supposed influence of their power and the necessitation in their scheme to keep the masses blind to the nature of the plot, allow the dissemination of anti-NWO propaganda? Arguing that it's 'to difficult' to control that kind of information (e.g. what you're writing here) seems counter to the basis of your argument, after all, if they can control the fiscal/governmental/health/media/business systems, they can definitely control discussion on internet forums/you tube (one would presume they own youtube/facebook/myspace/the telecommunications networks that make these websites feasible). If you argue that it's to hard to control the internet, then my question becomes, why would they allow people access to the internet in the first place? Particularly in the libertarian form it's taken? If they killed the electric car, why not kill the forum? why not introduce censorship? If they're going to go to the extent of brain washing everyone, surely they could do it in such a way as to limit the freedom to talk about their plans? Doesn't the biggest threat to an agenda (like the one you're talking about) seem to be the sharing of ideas?

You say you got 'woken up' why would they allow you to wake up? Why would they allow you to wake people up? The biggest counter-argument to what you're proposing, is the fact you're proposing it.

In terms of your list of attendees to that conference, honestly, it says nothing. There are thousands and thousands of private conferences every year of similar types, shit, I bet I could produce you a list of various influential media/political/entertainment leaders who visited Mc Donalds in the last twelve months, though, I doubt they were discussing a massive plot to rule the world over their cheese-burgers. These kind of conferences are one of the many cogs that keep the wheels spinning, I bet I could find you festivals/conferences that both members of The Hilltop Hoods and Bliss N Eso have attended, I doubt it means they're in kahoots in a master plan to control Australian hip-hop.




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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 09:16 AM


yeah i know nothing about school or education.
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fluoride was first put into water in the nazi concentration camps..yeah must have been for the health of the inmates teeth

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Firstly, if this grand design conspiracy exists, as you purport it does. Why exactly would they, given the supposed influence of their power and the necessitation in their scheme to keep the masses blind to the nature of the plot, allow the dissemination of anti-NWO propaganda? Arguing that it's 'to difficult' to control that kind of information (e.g. what you're writing here) seems counter to the basis of your argument, after all, if they can control the fiscal/governmental/health/media/business systems, they can definitely control discussion on internet forums/you tube (one would presume they own youtube/facebook/myspace/the telecommunications networks that make these websites feasible). If you argue that it's to hard to control the internet, then my question becomes, why would they allow people access to the internet in the first place? Particularly in the libertarian form it's taken? If they killed the electric car, why not kill the forum? why not introduce censorship? If they're going to go to the extent of brain washing everyone, surely they could do it in such a way as to limit the freedom to talk about their plans? Doesn't the biggest threat to an agenda (like the one you're talking about) seem to be the sharing of ideas?


You ooze ignorance on these subjects. Censorship from Google, YouTube, Digg, Myspace has been happening for years. They have limited our message from reaching millions. The news you watch and listen to does not report on the constant censorship that we get. Why would they do that if it's all bullshit?


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You say you got 'woken up' why would they allow you to wake up? Why would they allow you to wake people up? The biggest counter-argument to what you're proposing, is the fact you're proposing it.


It's not hard to research. What we were never taught was knowledge equals power. The search for knowledge is never ending, it continues forever. The more knowledge you gain the more wise you get and the more you understand this reality. If you don't understand how we can be so easily manipulated, then you're going to be manipulated because you won't have the knowledge to know when it's occurring.


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In terms of your list of attendees to that conference, honestly, it says nothing. There are thousands and thousands of private conferences every year of similar types, shit, I bet I could produce you a list of various influential media/political/entertainment leaders who visited Mc Donalds in the last twelve months, though, I doubt they were discussing a massive plot to rule the world over their cheese-burgers. These kind of conferences are one of the many cogs that keep the wheels spinning, I bet I could find you festivals/conferences that both members of The Hilltop Hoods and Bliss N Eso have attended, I doubt it means they're in kahoots in a master plan to control Australian hip-hop.


I doubt they say, "Look, let's take over the world through this method here, here and here." It's subtle and the people running the show in those organizations use the influential people into pushing through legislation, or to buy up infrastructure, or the need to expand NAFTA etc. not realizing that it's part of a bigger plan. As Russo said, Rockefeller told him that not all the people in the CFR believe what he believes about the world, and that most are good people but those people never reach the next inner circle such as where Rockefeller is at.

"These kind of conferences are one of the many cogs that keep the wheels spinning" Do you really believe that? You believe that they have to hold conferences in secret, to keep the world in order? and that they couldn't do it the right way through open meetings because????

These are the same people who make billions off wars, and you trust them to influence world affairs by secrecy? haha
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Firstly, if this grand design conspiracy exists, as you purport it does. Why exactly would they, given the supposed influence of their power and the necessitation in their scheme to keep the masses blind to the nature of the plot, allow the dissemination of anti-NWO propaganda? Arguing that it's 'to difficult' to control that kind of information (e.g. what you're writing here) seems counter to the basis of your argument, after all, if they can control the fiscal/governmental/health/media/business systems, they can definitely control discussion on internet forums/you tube (one would presume they own youtube/facebook/myspace/the telecommunications networks that make these websites feasible). If you argue that it's to hard to control the internet, then my question becomes, why would they allow people access to the internet in the first place? Particularly in the libertarian form it's taken? If they killed the electric car, why not kill the forum? why not introduce censorship? If they're going to go to the extent of brain washing everyone, surely they could do it in such a way as to limit the freedom to talk about their plans? Doesn't the biggest threat to an agenda (like the one you're talking about) seem to be the sharing of ideas?


You ooze ignorance on these subjects. Censorship from Google, YouTube, Digg, Myspace has been happening for years. They have limited our message from reaching millions. The news you watch and listen to does not report on the constant censorship that we get. Why would they do that if it's all bullshit?


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You say you got 'woken up' why would they allow you to wake up? Why would they allow you to wake people up? The biggest counter-argument to what you're proposing, is the fact you're proposing it.


It's not hard to research. What we were never taught was knowledge equals power. The search for knowledge is never ending, it continues forever. The more knowledge you gain the more wise you get and the more you understand this reality. If you don't understand how we can be so easily manipulated, then you're going to be manipulated because you won't have the knowledge to know when it's occurring.


Quote:
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In terms of your list of attendees to that conference, honestly, it says nothing. There are thousands and thousands of private conferences every year of similar types, shit, I bet I could produce you a list of various influential media/political/entertainment leaders who visited Mc Donalds in the last twelve months, though, I doubt they were discussing a massive plot to rule the world over their cheese-burgers. These kind of conferences are one of the many cogs that keep the wheels spinning, I bet I could find you festivals/conferences that both members of The Hilltop Hoods and Bliss N Eso have attended, I doubt it means they're in kahoots in a master plan to control Australian hip-hop.


I doubt they say, "Look, let's take over the world through this method here, here and here." It's subtle and the people running the show in those organizations use the influential people into pushing through legislation, or to buy up infrastructure, or the need to expand NAFTA etc. not realizing that it's part of a bigger plan. As Russo said, Rockefeller told him that not all the people in the CFR believe what he believes about the world, and that most are good people but those people never reach the next inner circle such as where Rockefeller is at.

"These kind of conferences are one of the many cogs that keep the wheels spinning" Do you really believe that? You believe that they have to hold conferences in secret, to keep the world in order? and that they couldn't do it the right way through open meetings because????

These are the same people who make billions off wars, and you trust them to influence world affairs by secrecy? haha


... I can go on myspace, youtube or google right now and find one hundred million websites arguing exactly the same shit you're arguing. If they're censoring they're doing a very, very bad job.

If they held those conferences as 'secret meetings' they didn't do a great job, did they? I guarantee you those members don't tell the public when they go to take a shit, either, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.




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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 11:49 AM


this is a very interesting/entertaining topic

but why bother dwelling on shit that may or may not be true

theres plenty of doubt here so to believe it your taking a huge leap of faith

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... I can go on myspace, youtube or google right now and find one hundred million websites arguing exactly the same shit you're arguing. If they're censoring they're doing a very, very bad job.


Anyone who knows what's out there can find the info. The censoring is to stop the normal everyday person from seeing the info, to limit our effectiveness.

Such as Youtube deleting and not promoting these certain videos. Google video wiping view counts when they get too big to stop them getting on the top 100 page or being featured. Digg did the same. Myspace censoring and filtering posts with "prisonplanet.com" url. etc etc


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If they held those conferences as 'secret meetings' they didn't do a great job, did they? I guarantee you those members don't tell the public when they go to take a shit, either, it doesn't mean it didn't happen.


For like 50 years researchers in this field were laughed at for saying Bilderberg Group was real, all because the press wouldn't acknowledge it existed. Now that it has been blown wide open and we get one or two papers each time admitting it's taking place, you now think they did a shit job in keeping their meetings secret?
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this is a very interesting/entertaining topic

but why bother dwelling on shit that may or may not be true

theres plenty of doubt here so to believe it your taking a huge leap of faith

fuck that shit matey


That's why you have to do serious research to make a more informed decision. From Carroll Quigley, to Aaron Russo's dealings with Nicholas Rockefeller, to David Rockefeller's own words, to prominent individuals giving us warnings of what they've discovered, to what the House of Rothschild funds and their thinktanks and what they write about within them. Information you won't find in the public arena. You have to make an effort to understand what's real and what's not. Heads up though, stay away from UFO's, reptilians and all that garbage. It's a distraction.
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this is a very interesting/entertaining topic

but why bother dwelling on shit that may or may not be true

theres plenty of doubt here so to believe it your taking a huge leap of faith

fuck that shit matey


That's why you have to do serious research to make a more informed decision. From Carroll Quigley, to Aaron Russo's dealings with Nicholas Rockefeller, to David Rockefeller's own words, to prominent individuals giving us warnings of what they've discovered, to what the House of Rothschild funds and their thinktanks and what they write about within them. Information you won't find in the public arena. You have to make an effort to understand what's real and what's not. Heads up though, stay away from UFO's, reptilians and all that garbage. It's a distraction.


do you apply your beliefs to the real world? is any of this information useful?




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Of course. My whole view on how to live life has changed. I no longer watch TV, I understand what the media does to create conflict within us all. You soon develop an ear and eye for spin and agendas that are being pushed. It's almost as if a part of your brain has been switched on and it processes everything you see and hear on a new level. Their programming no longer works efficiently on us. It's quite a journey. You'll see life in a new light, you'll enjoy the things you do because you've regained the power that you should have always had.

I do all this for my family. But hey, if you don't care about your own children and giving them the knowledge to live a better life then you don't have to do any research, all you have to do is continue what you're doing.

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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 03:42 PM


Alex Jones pushes his own agenda and uses spin to create conflict as well. he is just as bad as the corporate media, actually probably worse because he is never held accountable for deliberately misleading people.



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Alex Jones pushes his own agenda and uses spin to create conflict as well. he is just as bad as the corporate media, actually probably worse because he is never held accountable for deliberately misleading people.


SOURCES PLEASE.

where has he been proven to have mislead anybody delibrately or otherwise? i rekon ur just using smear tactics.

what is his agenda exactly? let me guess, to make money right? anything else cause last time i checked making money was the fucking goal of life in 2009.

what the fuck would you know nobbus? you dont even read his articles, listen to his radio show or watch his films. you dont read his attackers shit either. you fucking google "debunk x" where x is whatever you want it to be then you post that as your link/source.

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Of course. My whole view on how to live life has changed. I no longer watch TV, I understand what the media does to create conflict within us all. You soon develop an ear and eye for spin and agendas that are being pushed. It's almost as if a part of your brain has been switched on and it processes everything you see and hear on a new level. Their programming no longer works efficiently on us. It's quite a journey. You'll see life in a new light, you'll enjoy the things you do because you've regained the power that you should have always had.

I do all this for my family. But hey, if you don't care about your own children and giving them the knowledge to live a better life then you don't have to do any research, all you have to do is continue what you're doing.

[Edited on 26-1-2009 by NoalTheNauticaNiteRaider]


so you basically just talk a lot of shit?

what is the point of all this?

it sounds like a form of couping mecanism to me

oh and i dont think its a good idea to be filling your kids heads with this bullshit

[Edited on 26-1-2009 by centrelink]




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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 04:59 PM


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Of course. My whole view on how to live life has changed. I no longer watch TV, I understand what the media does to create conflict within us all. You soon develop an ear and eye for spin and agendas that are being pushed. It's almost as if a part of your brain has been switched on and it processes everything you see and hear on a new level. Their programming no longer works efficiently on us. It's quite a journey. You'll see life in a new light, you'll enjoy the things you do because you've regained the power that you should have always had.

I do all this for my family. But hey, if you don't care about your own children and giving them the knowledge to live a better life then you don't have to do any research, all you have to do is continue what you're doing.

[Edited on 26-1-2009 by NoalTheNauticaNiteRaider]


so you basically just talk a lot of shit?

what is the point of all this?

it sounds like a form of couping mecanism to me

oh and i dont think its a good idea to be filling your kids heads with this bullshit

[Edited on 26-1-2009 by centrelink]


What is the point of all what? Obtaining knowledge? Thought it was fairly obvious...

Coping mechanism? The world was like Disney land to me before I got into all of this so I hardly think giving yourself paranoia and anger is a coping mechanism.

Who says you need to fill your kids heads with this shit? You're guiding them through life and protecting them until they're old enough to understand the situation. You're the one who makes their decisions when they're young, that's why the more knowledge you obtain, the better chance your children have of reaching their highest potential, not only mentally but physically and everything that knowledge brings with it.
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[*] posted on 26-1-2009 at 05:00 PM


yeah noal!!

let your kid watch mtv instead!!

so "he" can be a emo little fucktard or "she" can be a worthless slut.

or take them to the sports to learn the value of excessive drinking and a pecking order.

god (white jesus) forgive noal for wanting to educate the next generation on mainstream history of the biographies of the richest and most powerful people on earth.

its really not noals or myselfs fault that you dont know your arse from your elbow mate.




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